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Don't National Championships define a school being a powerhouse? More of your silly attempts to manipulate the data in your favor. You're such a joke TP. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _  Jackson State's cut from the SCG |
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All-American |
And Deacon Jones, Harry Carson, Donnie Shell and Larry Little played in the SIAC. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ FAMU's National Titles in Football: 1938,1940,1947,1953,1957,1959,1961,1962,1964,1977,1978,1998 ...and 532 games won |
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It's hard to believe that JSU only has 3 SBN Championships. In the 80's, JSU would have steam rolled any HBCU with the talent they had alone. |
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All-American |
EXCEPT FOR THAT TRADITIONLESS, LITTLE OLE SCHOOL, NOT FAR FROM THE BANKS OF THE MEANDERING CUMBERLAND RIVER IN TENNESSEE SPORTING SIMILAR COLORS TO THE JSU BENGAL TIGERS. W.C. GORDEN ONCE WAS QUOTED IN THE LOCAL NEWSPAPER BEFORE A JSU-TNSU MATCHUP SAYING HE USED TNSU AS MEASURING STICK TO GUAGE HIS TEAM'S PROMISE FOR THE SEASON. IF GORDEN'S TEAMS BEAT OR PLAYED WELL AGAINST TNSU, HE FELT PRETTY CONFIDENT ABOUT HIS TEAM. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Tis better to light a candle than curse the darkness". |
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All-Conference |
Talent alone does not win championships. They did not, and had their opportunities. They had Tennessee State at home for the playoffs in 1986 and got beat. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Be Empowered!!! |
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All-American |
I don't see how you can make that statement. JSU was not the most dominate team in the 80's. Not close. Central got all those championship because they were the better team. Even before JSU bowed out in the playoff, Central had better records. |
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Tsutiger,
Coach Jimmy Joe was our offensive coordinator and Theo Lemon/Rick Comegy were our defensive coordinator in 1990.. Our best was the 1992 naia championship squad.. Coach Clifton Moore did excellent job with cordinating the defense.... |
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All-Conference |
That Tenn. State team beat JSU earlier in the year, as well. I didn't wanna see them come to Jackson. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _  |
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All-Conference |
Central was NAIA and played one or two I-AA teams. That's my biggest gripe with the BCF polls. They comparing NAIA/D2/I-AA(FCS) teams. Just because they beat your school means nothing to me. They wouldn'a beat JSU. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ |
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Head Coach |
That's only one time. You act like Central didn't play ANYBODY at the 1-AA level. Those Central teams were DAYUM good, go ask your coach how good they were. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Jackson State's cut from the SCG |
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All-American |
true. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "The media want to maintain their intimate relation to state power. They want to get leaks, they want to get invited to the press conferences. They want to rub shoulders with the Secretary of State, all that kind of business. To do that, you've got to play the game, and playing the game means telling their lies, serving as their disinformation apparatus." - Noam Chomsky "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State." - Joseph Goebbels, German Minister of Propaganda, 1933-1945 |
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All-American |
Slim, If BJ was not the OC, why was he not on the sideline? He was the first head coach that i know who was in the press box. JJ was OC in paycheck only. If he really was the OC why didn't he get a head coaching job after FAMU? |
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All-Conference |
I'm not saying they didn't play anybody. Make no mistake. I know they were good. But playing FAMU here and there, TSU here and there, and Gram here and there, is not the same as playing all 3 in the same year on a regular basis. During that time, JSU's non-conference schedule was routinely TSU, FAMU and 2 PWCs (Nichols State, Northwestern State, SE La). Throw in SFA, Missouri State and even USM once. Going through the weekly grind is much more difficult than what Central had to do. As for talking to Coach Comegy, believe me, we've had the conversation. I've sat through a few convos with him and his staff, former JSU players and fans about what woulda happened if JSU played Central or Tuskegee while Comegy was there. Of course, JSU'ers would only concede the Bell teams.  _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ |
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 nah, doug won a super bowl and broke several super bowl records, mcnair didn't even make it to a super bowl. but I would put bob hayes at one of the receiver spots in place of joiner or stallworth…_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ oleschoolaggie, coming to an hbcu near you... |
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McNair took Tennessee to a Super Bowl in 99 so yes he did make it there. Also let's remember this about COLLEGIATE accomplishments, not professional. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Jackson State's cut from the SCG |
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I'd substitute Jimmy Smith (JSU) for Charlie Joiner. |
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truth be told, sbn black college football national champions does not necessarily mean the champs were the best hbcu team that year. just like the bcs/fcs champions, the bcf champions were determined "primarily" based on their record, not how good they were. level of competition carries less weight than the record. for example, if you played a weak d2 schedule and went undefeated, but a dominant d1-aa team loses 1 game in the playoffs, the d2 team would win bcf championship even though they're probably not as good as the d1-aa team. not saying that's true 100% of the time, but its true some of the time. i could give you some specific examples where a lower ranked team was the best team and didn't win the bcf championship, but i don't want to call any schools out. so number of bcf nationals championships doesn't necessarily indicate the most dominant programs, but it is a reasonable indicator… _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ oleschoolaggie, coming to an hbcu near you... |
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you could be right, i didn't check. i guess there's some truth to the saying that we remember the champions but not the runners-up… _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ oleschoolaggie, coming to an hbcu near you... |
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Bench Warmer |
Come on, quantity doesn't mean quality. Teams like JSU, Grambling, FAMU and Tenn. State played much tougher teams and beat up on each other while Central played teams year in and year out like Cheyney, Shepherd, Virginia Union, Western State, Kentucky State, Carson-Newman, Lane College. Not trying to discredit Central State, but come on. Carson-Newman? Lane?Shepherd? Here's Central State's all time schedule. I don't even recognize half of those schools. http://michigan-football.com/ncaa/f/centrlst.htm Surely, those teams can't be compared to the JSU's, Gramblings and Tenn State's of the 70's 80's and 90's. This message has been edited. Last edited by: JayRob, |
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All-Conference |
This is my point. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ |
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