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Originally posted by The Camera:
Not only them, but add NSU to that list also. Yeah, I said it. We would become a stronger conference without them, but we also need for FAMU to leave as well. FAMU just needs to keep about 4 or 5 of these teams on their football schedule and do the rest on our own. In Basketball, we need to keep about 7 or 8 of you on our list and do this.

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THIS IS SPARRRRTA!!!!!

Do what you GOT TO DO, in order to do what you WANT TO DO.

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Originally posted by StevieT:

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Originally posted by MorganFan:

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MorganFan,

At first I thought your opinions were based on the fact that UMES and Coppin don't have football... What is your reason for saying DSU should be out of the MEAC?

JHawk

I wanted to put DSU out of the MEAC about 5-6 years ago when they had high school facilities, high school crowds, and their football team was terrible.

The last few years DSU football team and facilities has come a might long way.

They still do not fit location wise:

MEAC North
1. Howard
2. UMES
3. Coppin
4. Morgan
5. NSU
6. Hampton

Everyone would have a travel partner and it would cut down travel cost for the southern teams

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How is the status of MEAC and SWAC athletics a poor reflection on Black America?

Because the two Black conference lack focus and has been the worst for years. Where is the leadership? Are Blacks just athletic and can’t think or organize? Is the MEAC or SWAC something that Black America could be proud of? Every now and then you see a sport doing well national but that is the exception not the rule.

In case you haven’t noticed UMES bowling team is good but they are ALL White.

WTF are you talking about? Why don't we fit? Is it because we have kicked yo azz since you returned to the MEAC? We are 90 min from both Howard & Morgan. We have students from both cities. We offer similar sports offerings and similar academics. Sometimes some of you MSU posters are full of shit. We loose to UD and we are the worst team that Black College Sports ever produced. Last question. What have you won lately? You live on past glory. WE FIT IN A MEAC NORTH as much as you do. FU

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THIS IS SPARRRRTA!!!!!

Do what you GOT TO DO, in order to do what you WANT TO DO.

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Originally posted by StevieT:

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Originally posted by MorganFan:

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MorganFan,

At first I thought your opinions were based on the fact that UMES and Coppin don't have football... What is your reason for saying DSU should be out of the MEAC?

JHawk

I wanted to put DSU out of the MEAC about 5-6 years ago when they had high school facilities, high school crowds, and their football team was terrible.

The last few years DSU football team and facilities has come a might long way.

They still do not fit location wise:

MEAC North
1. Howard
2. UMES
3. Coppin
4. Morgan
5. NSU
6. Hampton

Everyone would have a travel partner and it would cut down travel cost for the southern teams

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How is the status of MEAC and SWAC athletics a poor reflection on Black America?

Because the two Black conference lack focus and has been the worst for years. Where is the leadership? Are Blacks just athletic and can’t think or organize? Is the MEAC or SWAC something that Black America could be proud of? Every now and then you see a sport doing well national but that is the exception not the rule.

In case you haven’t noticed UMES bowling team is good but they are ALL White.

WTF are you talking about? Why don't we fit? Is it because we have kicked yo azz since you returned to the MEAC? We are 90 min from both Howard & Morgan. We have students from both cities. We offer similar sports offerings and similar academics. Sometimes some of you MSU posters are full of shit. We loose to UD and we are the worst team that Black College Sports ever produced. Last question. What have you won lately? You live on past glory. WE FIT IN A MEAC NORTH as much as you do. FU

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Originally posted by JHawk:
How much money has each school generated for the MEAC?

LOL @ the school is in the middle of nowhere...depending on where you are from, one could say the same about Hampton, but what does that have to do with anything?

Who cares about college bowling? If your team would have won, you would have cared.

The team is not all white, but even if it was, those girls represented UMES. I don't care if they are orange....

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Originally posted by StevieT:

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Originally posted by MorganFan:

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MorganFan,

At first I thought your opinions were based on the fact that UMES and Coppin don't have football... What is your reason for saying DSU should be out of the MEAC?

JHawk

I wanted to put DSU out of the MEAC about 5-6 years ago when they had high school facilities, high school crowds, and their football team was terrible.

The last few years DSU football team and facilities has come a might long way.

They still do not fit location wise:

MEAC North
1. Howard
2. UMES
3. Coppin
4. Morgan
5. NSU
6. Hampton

Everyone would have a travel partner and it would cut down travel cost for the southern teams

quote:

How is the status of MEAC and SWAC athletics a poor reflection on Black America?

Because the two Black conference lack focus and has been the worst for years. Where is the leadership? Are Blacks just athletic and can’t think or organize? Is the MEAC or SWAC something that Black America could be proud of? Every now and then you see a sport doing well national but that is the exception not the rule.

In case you haven’t noticed UMES bowling team is good but they are ALL White.

WTF are you talking about? Why don't we fit? Is it because we have kicked yo azz since you returned to the MEAC? We are 90 min from both Howard & Morgan. We have students from both cities. We offer similar sports offerings and similar academics. Sometimes some of you MSU posters are full of shit. We loose to UD and we are the worst team that Black College Sports ever produced. Last question. What have you won lately? You live on past glory. WE FIT IN A MEAC NORTH as much as you do. FU

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Originally posted by oleschoolaggie:

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Originally posted by StevieT:

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Originally posted by MorganFan:

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MorganFan,

At first I thought your opinions were based on the fact that UMES and Coppin don't have football... What is your reason for saying DSU should be out of the MEAC?

JHawk

I wanted to put DSU out of the MEAC about 5-6 years ago when they had high school facilities, high school crowds, and their football team was terrible.

The last few years DSU football team and facilities has come a might long way.

They still do not fit location wise:

MEAC North
1. Howard
2. UMES
3. Coppin
4. Morgan
5. NSU
6. Hampton

Everyone would have a travel partner and it would cut down travel cost for the southern teams

quote:

How is the status of MEAC and SWAC athletics a poor reflection on Black America?

Because the two Black conference lack focus and has been the worst for years. Where is the leadership? Are Blacks just athletic and can’t think or organize? Is the MEAC or SWAC something that Black America could be proud of? Every now and then you see a sport doing well national but that is the exception not the rule.

In case you haven’t noticed UMES bowling team is good but they are ALL White.

WTF are you talking about? Why don't we fit? Is it because we have kicked yo azz since you returned to the MEAC? We are 90 min from both Howard & Morgan. We have students from both cities. We offer similar sports offerings and similar academics. Sometimes some of you MSU posters are full of shit. We loose to UD and we are the worst team that Black College Sports ever produced. Last question. What have you won lately? You live on past glory. WE FIT IN A MEAC NORTH as much as you do. FU

thanks stevie, i agree with you. a lot of the naysayers' frustrations are misguided. some of them need to brush up on the history of this country. then they just might understand that you cannot compare an hbcu conference with pwc conferences unless you consider the legacy of economic injustice in america. then, if you also understand that division 1 success in the revenue sports (football & basketball) are largely dictated by economics, folks wouldn't make statements that the meac and swac are poor reflections on black america. they're quite the contrary. the meac and swac must overcome tremendous historical/economic obstacles just to pull even with the pwc conferences. in light of history, we all should be very proud of the meac and swac conferences. strip all pwc's of every single nickel of "unjust" finances they've accumulated since 1865 and watch the best black athletes flock back to the hbcu's.

as far as expelling csu and umes from the meac, again the naysayers need to study our history. every hbcu was founded with the mission of educating our people who may not have had the opportunity otherwise. it is not in keeping with our history for an hbcu conference to even consider kicking out a fellow hbcu because of perception or economics. that's the "crabs in the barrel" mentality! i'm so glad that our hbcu founding fathers and mothers did not have the "crabs in the barrel" mentality, otherwise a lot of us (including the naysayers) would not have a college education! forget about athletic prosperity, hbcu's are about inclusiveness not exclusiveness. the notion that any school should be expelled from the conference is just lighthearted conversation. to be serious though, as long as a school is in good keeping with the conference, expelling any of them should not even be discussed…

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THIS IS SPARRRRTA!!!!!

Do what you GOT TO DO, in order to do what you WANT TO DO.

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Originally posted by punchykky:
I agree with everything you just said. But I still wished they fielded football teams. But I also understand Coppin State's situation.

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Originally posted by MorganFan:

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Originally posted by StevieT:

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Originally posted by MorganFan:

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MorganFan,

At first I thought your opinions were based on the fact that UMES and Coppin don't have football... What is your reason for saying DSU should be out of the MEAC?

JHawk

I wanted to put DSU out of the MEAC about 5-6 years ago when they had high school facilities, high school crowds, and their football team was terrible.

The last few years DSU football team and facilities has come a might long way.

They still do not fit location wise:

MEAC North
1. Howard
2. UMES
3. Coppin
4. Morgan
5. NSU
6. Hampton

Everyone would have a travel partner and it would cut down travel cost for the southern teams

quote:

How is the status of MEAC and SWAC athletics a poor reflection on Black America?

Because the two Black conference lack focus and has been the worst for years. Where is the leadership? Are Blacks just athletic and can’t think or organize? Is the MEAC or SWAC something that Black America could be proud of? Every now and then you see a sport doing well national but that is the exception not the rule.

In case you haven’t noticed UMES bowling team is good but they are ALL White.

WTF are you talking about? Why don't we fit? Is it because we have kicked yo azz since you returned to the MEAC? We are 90 min from both Howard & Morgan. We have students from both cities. We offer similar sports offerings and similar academics. Sometimes some of you MSU posters are full of shit. We loose to UD and we are the worst team that Black College Sports ever produced. Last question. What have you won lately? You live on past glory. WE FIT IN A MEAC NORTH as much as you do. FU

StevieT

You are late. I expected you a lot sooner.

You know your President wants to shed that HBCU title and start competing in the NEC. Now that they will have an automatic playoff bid that might hasten the DSU move to the NEC.

You can yell as loud as you want and use profanity but that still does nothing for DSU. You have very few rivals in the MEAC and if you leave no one will miss you (maybe UMES but they can join you).

You bring almost nothing to the table even when you win.

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Originally posted by punchykky:

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Originally posted by The Camera:
Not only them, but add NSU to that list also. Yeah, I said it. We would become a stronger conference without them, but we also need for FAMU to leave as well. FAMU just needs to keep about 4 or 5 of these teams on their football schedule and do the rest on our own. In Basketball, we need to keep about 7 or 8 of you on our list and do this.

Why you wanna kick us out the MEAC? We won the MEAC Men's All Sports Trophy 3 years in a row!

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Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!
FAMU National Alumni Association Lifetime Member #0445.

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You have very few rivals in the MEAC and if you leave no one will miss you (maybe UMES but they can join you).

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Originally posted by MorganFan:
You know a lot of people both black and white feels as though you will get a second rate education by going to an HBCU. I think sometimes our athletic teams just add to that myth.

* We can’t win a Div. 1AA football playoff game
* Our basketball team gets beat sometimes by 50 points by the larger schools
* We end up in the play-in game and can’t even win that.

Getting happy about a bowling championship in which few schools play in is not the answer. The MEAC has had a problem for the last 20 years that has yet to be solved.

Do you drop down to Div. II which you team can compete for national championships in multiple sports? Or do you stay in Div. 1 and get embarrassed and humiliated by the larger schools?

Why does HBCU drop their standards so low? No one else can sees a problem with that?
Getting beat silly year after year after year is OK? Is that the best that we can do?

If a school is Div. 1 in name only that is not health for the conference and it’s a contradiction to the schools that are serious about winning.

If everyone is not committed and on the same page then maybe the conference needs to break up. Then each school could join a conference based on their athletic commitment level.

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Originally posted by The Camera:

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Originally posted by punchykky:

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Originally posted by The Camera:
Not only them, but add NSU to that list also. Yeah, I said it. We would become a stronger conference without them, but we also need for FAMU to leave as well. FAMU just needs to keep about 4 or 5 of these teams on their football schedule and do the rest on our own. In Basketball, we need to keep about 7 or 8 of you on our list and do this.

Why you wanna kick us out the MEAC? We won the MEAC Men's All Sports Trophy 3 years in a row!

Cause you all really suck at Football.

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THIS IS SPARRRRTA!!!!!

Do what you GOT TO DO, in order to do what you WANT TO DO.

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Originally posted by MorganFan:

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Originally posted by StevieT:

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Originally posted by MorganFan:

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MorganFan,

At first I thought your opinions were based on the fact that UMES and Coppin don't have football... What is your reason for saying DSU should be out of the MEAC?

JHawk

I wanted to put DSU out of the MEAC about 5-6 years ago when they had high school facilities, high school crowds, and their football team was terrible.

The last few years DSU football team and facilities has come a might long way.

They still do not fit location wise:

MEAC North
1. Howard
2. UMES
3. Coppin
4. Morgan
5. NSU
6. Hampton

Everyone would have a travel partner and it would cut down travel cost for the southern teams

quote:

How is the status of MEAC and SWAC athletics a poor reflection on Black America?

Because the two Black conference lack focus and has been the worst for years. Where is the leadership? Are Blacks just athletic and can’t think or organize? Is the MEAC or SWAC something that Black America could be proud of? Every now and then you see a sport doing well national but that is the exception not the rule.

In case you haven’t noticed UMES bowling team is good but they are ALL White.

WTF are you talking about? Why don't we fit? Is it because we have kicked yo azz since you returned to the MEAC? We are 90 min from both Howard & Morgan. We have students from both cities. We offer similar sports offerings and similar academics. Sometimes some of you MSU posters are full of shit. We loose to UD and we are the worst team that Black College Sports ever produced. Last question. What have you won lately? You live on past glory. WE FIT IN A MEAC NORTH as much as you do. FU

StevieT

You are late. I expected you a lot sooner.

You know your President wants to shed that HBCU title and start competing in the NEC. Now that they will have an automatic playoff bid that might hasten the DSU move to the NEC.

You can yell as loud as you want and use profanity but that still does nothing for DSU. You have very few rivals in the MEAC and if you leave no one will miss you (maybe UMES but they can join you).

You bring almost nothing to the table even when you win.

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hey morganfan, let me holla at you for a second. can i ask you something? is there "ANYTHING" that's worthwhile that you are the undisputed best in the country at? anything? winning a national championship in anything is a major accomplishment! umes can "legitimately" claim they are the best in this entire country at something that is worthwhile. do