wasn't it not too long ago this year certains folks were calling for umes and csu to be kicked out of the meac? primarily because they don't have a football team and because they have smaller enrollments? yeah, i know it wasn't the majority of folks saying that, but it was a very significant few.

a couple months later, csu not only wins an meac tournament basketball championship, hail, they won two! both the men and women! and not to be outdone, umes takes out the rest of the entire country in college's highest division and wins a glorious national championship in women's bowling!

wtf happened to those folks calling for csu and umes to be kicked out of the conference? where'd they go? speak up naysayers! you don't hear them talkin' that smack anymore do ya? i can't help but think csu and umes must feel like the old school rapper kool moe dee! you know the one? in the illustrious words of kool moe dee, "how ya like me now" naysayers! where are the naysayers? speak up! i can't hear you! speak up!

I am still here (not going anywhere).
Every now and then, I bring up the topic of putting Coppin, UMES, and DSU out of the conference.

I think you should Coppin out this year for upsetting the regular season champs denying them of their rightful place.

Just because they win a few championship does not say a whole lot. Everyone in the MEAC has to pull their own weight and bring something to the table. There should be no free rides.

I’m I the only one tired of hearing the MEAC and SWAC are the worst conference in Div. 1? I think it’s a poor reflection on Black America, HBCU and the institutions.

Every school should do an evaluation to determine if they really should be in Div. 1.

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Originally posted by oleschoolaggie:
wasn't it not too long ago this year certains folks were calling for umes and csu to be kicked out of the meac? primarily because they don't have a football team and because they have smaller enrollments? yeah, i know it wasn't the majority of folks saying that, but it was a very significant few.

a couple months later, csu not only wins an meac tournament basketball championship, hail, they won two! both the men and women! and not to be outdone, umes takes out the rest of the entire country in college's highest division and wins a glorious national championship in women's bowling!

wtf happened to those folks calling for csu and umes to be kicked out of the conference? where'd they go? speak up naysayers! you don't hear them talkin' that smack anymore do ya? i can't help but think csu and umes must feel like the old school rapper kool moe dee! you know the one? in the illustrious words of kool moe dee, "how ya like me now" naysayers! where are the naysayers? speak up! i can't hear you! speak up!

I don't recall saying I want UMES and CSU out of the MEAC; however,,,,I still think ALL MEAC teams should field football teams.

I recall I saying removal if they do not add all sports in MEAC. UMES and CSU are financial drains if they are not totally involved in its endeavors. Just think of a bi-divisonal league and championship game in Atlanta the same day as the Honda Battle of the Bands (football). Baseball championship in Durham at the Durham Bulls home field. Basketball in Winston-Salem at the Joel......

Do not dismiss:
Basketball
Baseball
Football
Already have something similar to this in bowling and volleyball

Northern Division
Coppin State
Delaware State
Hampton
Howard
Morgan State
Norfolk State

Southern Division
Bethune-Cookman
Florida A&M
Maryland Eastern Shore
N.C. A&T State
S.C. State
Winston-Salem State

CSU getting lucky times two during a tournament to be lambs for the slaughter cannot be considered a success for anyone but CSU. I would say it killed the MEAC in the national press for having a champion with a losing record (mens) and getting murder by 14 by Marylan who played their B Team (women). UMES wins the bowling championship. How many T-shirts did you or anyone run out and buy? Did team members even get rings? What else have they done?

What has CSU done to to bring postive light on the conference? I really can't complain about UMES Bowling, but what else do they have? How much money or prestige did that generate for the MEAC?

Probably about as much as Del. State getting thumped by Delaware on national television after begging for the match-up through the media or the MEAC/SWAC challenge "miscommunication" about who's representing the MEAC.

Being in and winning the bowling championship brought exposure to the University and the MEAC via ESPN.

What else have they done?

Some things going on with UMES bowling since the championship:

http://umeshawks.cstv.com/sports/w-bowl/spec-rel/043008aac.html
http://umeshawks.cstv.com/sports/w-bowl/spec-rel/043008aad.html
http://umeshawks.cstv.com/sports/w-bowl/spec-rel/042708aab.html

Actually, I have seen people wearing UMES bowling t-shirts

Did they get rings? I don't know....

What has anything that any other MEAC team with or without football done for the MEAC?

How are UMES and/or Coppin financial drains on the MEAC?

CSU being this year's MEAC lamb for slaughter in the Play-In Game is no different than any other one of us who woulda won ...

Anyone the MEAC sends is gonna be a lambchop ... "So Why NOT CSU?"

If the only sport they (UMES & CSU) aren't involved in is the one that costs the most ... and none of the others who are involved in it have done much since Confunkshun had a hit record to make it a competitive product, &/or at least somewhat of an attractive proposition to consider ... then I wouldn't bother watering down an already bland soup either.

MorganFan,

At first I thought your opinions were based on the fact that UMES and Coppin don't have football... What is your reason for saying DSU should be out of the MEAC?

How is the status of MEAC and SWAC athletics a poor reflection on Black America?

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MorganFan,

At first I thought your opinions were based on the fact that UMES and Coppin don't have football... What is your reason for saying DSU should be out of the MEAC?

JHawk

I wanted to put DSU out of the MEAC about 5-6 years ago when they had high school facilities, high school crowds, and their football team was terrible.

The last few years DSU football team and facilities has come a might long way.

They still do not fit location wise:

MEAC North
1. Howard
2. UMES
3. Coppin
4. Morgan
5. NSU
6. Hampton

Everyone would have a travel partner and it would cut down travel cost for the southern teams

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How is the status of MEAC and SWAC athletics a poor reflection on Black America?

Because the two Black conference lack focus and has been the worst for years. Where is the leadership? Are Blacks just athletic and can’t think or organize? Is the MEAC or SWAC something that Black America could be proud of? Every now and then you see a sport doing well national but that is the exception not the rule.

In case you haven’t noticed UMES bowling team is good but they are ALL White.

I'm still here too.

CSU, UMES and FAMU need to be kicked out.

I'm still here. Despite UMES winning the bowling national championship a sport that brings in a lot of revenue to the ...oops this isn't a sport that generates anything. The school is in the middle of nowhere and is a drain in the MEAC. Coppin to me is one notch above UMES with their facilities and yes I know they have plans to build but I don't see where they benefit the conference in any way. the fact they play all those games on the road to raise money for their athletic budget is like a prostitute on the street. They take guaranteed but whoopings for money. That isn't good for competition or PR for your school. They have to stop. Yes i'm for them leaving the conference.

Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while !

Not only them, but add NSU to that list also. Yeah, I said it. We would become a stronger conference without them, but we also need for FAMU to leave as well. FAMU just needs to keep about 4 or 5 of these teams on their football schedule and do the rest on our own. In Basketball, we need to keep about 7 or 8 of you on our list and do this.

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wasn't it not too long ago this year certains folks were calling for umes and csu to be kicked out of the meac? primarily because they don't have a football team and because they have smaller enrollments? yeah, i know it wasn't the majority of folks saying that, but it was a very significant few.

a couple months later, csu not only wins an meac tournament basketball championship, hail, they won two! both the men and women! and not to be outdone, umes takes out the rest of the entire country in college's highest division and wins a glorious national championship in women's bowling!

LMAO @ Oleschoolaggie.

To borrow the words of the clueless, language-challenged man who sued because he was turned down as chairman of the English department:

"Don't woke'em; let'em slept!"

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Just because they win a few championship does not say a whole lot.

One of the more idiotic statements ever on MEACFAns and that's saying something.A championship at the D1 level in any sport negates decades of lacklusters 1-AA football seasons.

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Originally posted by Bison 4 Life:

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Just because they win a few championship does not say a whole lot.

One of the more idiotic statements ever on MEACFAns and that's saying something.A championship at the D1 level in any sport negates decades of lacklusters 1-AA football seasons.

Who cares about college bowling? That is two steps below college baseball. How many colleges even have a bowling team other then HBCU's?

Its good that a MEAC team won a championship but it happen in a sport that very few fans follow or even care. And it took a team of all white players to do it.

And trust me, I have read a lot more idiotic statements from Bison fans.

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Who cares about college bowling? That is two steps below college baseball. How many colleges even have a bowling team other then HBCU's?

Its good that a MEAC team won a championship but it happen in a sport that very few fans follow or even care. And it took a team of all white players to do it.

And trust me, I have read a lot more idiotic statements from Bison fans.

Seems like some MSU posters are good for a "WTF?" statement every now and then too!

Since it doesn't exactly appear that most of us are actually giving a real hoot about improving the level of FOOTBALL we're all playing - and claim to be "following" ...

So - "Why NOT College Bowling?"

hmmm.....interesting commentary here

How much money has each school generated for the MEAC?

LOL @ the school is in the middle of nowhere...depending on where you are from, one could say the same about Hampton, but what does that have to do with anything?

Who cares about college bowling? If your team would have won, you would have cared.

The team is not all white, but even if it was, those girls represented UMES. I don't care if they are orange....

Kick everybody out who doesn't have a baseball team.
If you have a sport in which no one else in the conference competes *cough*sailing*cough*horseyrides*cough, then you pick up baseball.

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Originally posted by MorganFan:

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MorganFan,

At first I thought your opinions were based on the fact that UMES and Coppin don't have football... What is your reason for saying DSU should be out of the MEAC?

JHawk

I wanted to put DSU out of the MEAC about 5-6 years ago when they had high school facilities, high school crowds, and their football team was terrible.

The last few years DSU football team and facilities has come a might long way.

They still do not fit location wise:

MEAC North
1. Howard
2. UMES
3. Coppin
4. Morgan
5. NSU
6. Hampton

Everyone would have a travel partner and it would cut down travel cost for the southern teams

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How is the status of MEAC and SWAC athletics a poor reflection on Black America?

Because the two Black conference lack focus and has been the worst for years. Where is the leadership? Are Blacks just athletic and can’t think or organize? Is the MEAC or SWAC something that Black America could be proud of? Every now and then you see a sport doing well national but that is the exception not the rule.

In case you haven’t noticed UMES bowling team is good but they are ALL White.

WTF are you talking about? Why don't we fit? Is it because we have kicked yo azz since you returned to the MEAC? We are 90 min from both Howard & Morgan. We have students from both cities. We offer similar sports offerings and similar academics. Sometimes some of you MSU posters are full of shit. We loose to UD and we are the worst team that Black College Sports ever produced. Last question. What have you won lately? You live on past glory. WE FIT IN A MEAC NORTH as much as you do. FU