http://www.hbcusportsblog.com/2008/05/black-colleges.html

Among the hardest hit institutions were Morgan State University, Hampton University, Howard University and Southern University, which each lost athletic scholarship awards for the upcoming academic school year.

On a broader note, I believe this serves to pretty much dispel the notion that certain HBCUs are "academically elite" in any substantial degree over others. We pretty much feed from the same trough.

We've all got to do better.

Graduation rates for athletes are important. But let's not over react.

I failed to see how an institution's academic standing is changed because of one NCAA index.

Howard will loose 2.91 football scholarships while BCS school Washington State will loose 8 football scholarships. No one in the media will attack Washington State's academic standing because of one NCAA report.

Just because your school gets a better or worse score on this report does not mean your alma mater is academically better or worse than another school,

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Originally posted by Art of NSU:
On a broader note, I believe this serves to pretty much dispel the notion that certain HBCUs are "academically elite" in any substantial degree over others. We pretty much feed from the same trough.

We've all got to do better.

Actually it proves it to be true because we don't give out grades because someone is an athlete. You gotta' earn it.

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Originally posted by MORGAN74:
Graduation rates for athletes are important. But let's not over react.

I failed to see how an institution's academic standing is changed because of one NCAA index.

Howard will loose 2.91 football scholarships while BCS school Washington State will loose 8 football scholarships. No one in the media will attack Washington State's academic standing because of one NCAA report.

Just because your school gets a better or worse score on this report does not mean your alma mater is academically better or worse than another school,

^^Thank you morganfan, one has very little to do with the other. While it may be nice for some to believe-- a few academic penalties does not negate an institution's academic standing. Thats reaching.

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Originally posted by hulaw94:

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Originally posted by Art of NSU:
On a broader note, I believe this serves to pretty much dispel the notion that certain HBCUs are "academically elite" in any substantial degree over others. We pretty much feed from the same trough.

We've all got to do better.

Actually it proves it to be true because we don't give out grades because someone is an athlete. You gotta' earn it.

I agree

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Originally posted by trurattler99:

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Originally posted by hulaw94:

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Originally posted by Art of NSU:
On a broader note, I believe this serves to pretty much dispel the notion that certain HBCUs are "academically elite" in any substantial degree over others. We pretty much feed from the same trough.

We've all got to do better.

Actually it proves it to be true because we don't give out grades because someone is an athlete. You gotta' earn it.

I agree

actually, both sides are correct in a sense. the truth is that the report doesn't prove either side to be true. in other words, no conclusions regarding a school's academics can be drawn from this ncaa report. the athletes could have poor grades because of a more challenging academic institution, or the athletes could have poor grades because they're receiving a poor education or wasn't qualified to begin with. the report doesn't prove either case…

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Originally posted by HBCU Sports Blog:
http://www.hbcusportsblog.com/2008/05/black-colleges.html

Among the hardest hit institutions were Morgan State University, Hampton University...

Although Hampton was recently re-certified "with conditions" by the NCAA D1 Committee on Athletics Certification, Morgan St. got a clean bill of health! Am I missing something here?

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Originally posted by TechRattler:

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Originally posted by HBCU Sports Blog:
http://www.hbcusportsblog.com/2008/05/black-colleges.html

Among the hardest hit institutions were Morgan State University, Hampton University...

Although Hampton was recently re-certified "with conditions" by the NCAA D1 Committee on Athletics Certification, Morgan St. got a clean bill of health! Am I missing something here?

That baffled me too

Having written about the NCAA recertification process, I believe that the requirements for Division I affiliation include many more factors aside from academic proficiency (enrollment, facilities, annual revenues, certain statistic reporting standards, etc)

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Originally posted by Art of NSU:
On a broader note, I believe this serves to pretty much dispel the notion that certain HBCUs are "academically elite" in any substantial degree over others. We pretty much feed from the same trough.

We've all got to do better.

I disagree. It could be these schools aren't just passing athletes, like most schools do.

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Originally posted by SUjagTILLiDIE:
[QUOTE]I disagree. It could be these schools aren't just passing athletes, like most schools do.

I can agree that Howard in the 95 best school regardless of academic classification, Hampton's reputation is also agreeable, and Morgan is a part of the african american higher education in Maryland.

Yet, I do not feel comfotable adding Southern "here's your complementary degree" University. Aren't they still sorting out who's degree is genuine or not?

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Originally posted by TightEye:

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Originally posted by SUjagTILLiDIE:
[QUOTE]I disagree. It could be these schools aren't just passing athletes, like most schools do.

I can agree that Howard in the 95 best school regardless of academic classification, Hampton's reputation is also agreeable, and Morgan is a part of the african american higher education in Maryland.

Yet, I do not feel comfotable adding Southern "here's your complementary degree" University. Aren't they still sorting out who's degree is genuine or not?

Dumbass. No athletes were involved in that. The NCAA would have damn near shut down the program.

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Originally posted by SUjagTILLiDIE:

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Originally posted by Art of NSU:
On a broader note, I believe this serves to pretty much dispel the notion that certain HBCUs are "academically elite" in any substantial degree over others. We pretty much feed from the same trough.

We've all got to do better.

I disagree. It could be these schools aren't just passing athletes, like most schools do.

It also could mean that those athletes just didn't go to class or met their academic requirements.

For those of you who might not think this is a really big deal..

By Ed Miller
The Virginian-Pilot
© May 7, 2008
Area and state colleges emerged mostly unscathed Tuesday when the NCAA released its latest Academic Progress Rate data, part of a reform movement that penalizes teams whose athletes consistently lag in the classroom.

Nationally, 150 college teams face scholarship losses next season and 26 others are in danger of being banned from the postseason as a result of the most recent APR scores.

One of those teams is the Hampton men's basketball squad, which scored under 900 on the APR for the second straight year and was penalized one scholarship. A third consecutive score under 900 next year would ban the Pirates from postseason competition.

East Carolina's men's basketball team faces the same sanctions.

Elsewhere, the toll was lighter. Old Dominion's wrestling team was docked four-tenths of a scholarship. The school had been allowed to divide 9.9 scholarships among team members. Now it will be limited to 9.48 scholarships.

ODU said the penalty is due to a wrestler transferring after the fall semester of his freshman year. Such "contemporaneous" penalties are applied when someone is academically ineligible when they leave. The penalty the NCAA issues in such cases is equal to the amount of scholarship aid the athlete was receiving.

ODU added that the wrestling team has improved its APR score each year since Steve Martin took over as coach in the 2004-05 academic year. Still, the wrestling team's score of 913 puts it in the bottom 10th percentile of 87 Division I wrestling squads.

At Norfolk State, the men's basketball team received a public notice for a four-year APR score that puts it in the 10th percentile of all teams within the sport. The men's basketball team scored 888. A score under 900 triggers sanctions.

The first-year sanction is a public warning, the one Norfolk State received. A second sub-900 triggers the loss of scholarships, recruiting and practice time; a third results in a ban from postseason competition and a fourth in a loss of Division I status.

Norfolk State director of athletics Marty Miller said the low score is a result of some players failing to graduate and others transferring from the program in the past three years.

"Coach (Anthony) Evans is working very hard to prevent this trend from happening in the future," Miller said. "Fortunately, some of these players have re-enrolled at NSU to complete their degree requirements."

Officials at Hampton did not return phone calls Tuesday.

East Carolina said its men's basketball team has made improvement, with its GPA jumping from 2.13 in the fall of 2004 to 2.78 in the fall of 2007. In addition, all players since 2005 have remained academically eligible and those who have transferred have been in good standing when they left.

"It is possible that no other NCAA institution has shown a comparable improvement in team GPA during this time period," athletic director Terry Holland said. "And I believe that the ECU men's basketball team's class attendance is among the nation's best as well."

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Originally posted by hulaw94:

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Originally posted by Art of NSU:
On a broader note, I believe this serves to pretty much dispel the notion that certain HBCUs are "academically elite" in any substantial degree over others. We pretty much feed from the same trough.

We've all got to do better.

Actually it proves it to be true because we don't give out grades because someone is an athlete. You gotta' earn it.

Or it proves that coaches at our institutions aren't putting an emphasis on education, which creates an atmosphere where players feel they don't need to focus on education, causing them to fail.