No matter how much we do not want to admit it, realistically we would only divert much needed resources from their current sports that are traditional under funded when compared to their regional PWC counterparts.

You guys don't have Golf and Soccer as conference sports? The SWAC added women's soccer a few years back and from the little I know in regards to Southern, it helped Title IX and didn't cost that much to implement and we are able to take from local schools as well as international students who love the game. They have even played games at Mumford Stadium before.

FAMU has a mens golf team but no soccer team. I believe we even have a wrestling team.

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Originally posted by MorganFan:
The MEAC could sponsor men and women soccer as a conference sport. Not that I am a soccer fan but it seem like a very inexpensive sport. Its 10 people kicking around one ball and not needing any special equipment.

You could have a minimum of:
* A part time head coach (2:00 pm – 6:00 pm daily)
* A part time assistant coach
* A volunteer coach (retired alumni)
* You could have 4 full scholarships and break them into many.

Uniforms and balls should not be too expensive.

You can play teams within a 3 hour radius that would not require any over night stays

Where do I begin???

part-time staff??? Are you serious??? This isn't little league. Do you know how much time is required of a collegiate coach? They must recruit, maintain their inventory, schedule travel, monitor their student-athletes, complete mounds of paperwork, and the list goes on...

YOu are talking about adding it as a MEAC sport, and then mention they can only play teams in a 3hour radius...ummmm...your logic is a little flawed. How will BCU and FAMU maintain a CONFERENCE schedule while traveling in a 3 hour radius? If it is a CONFERENCE SPORT, they have to play CONFERENCE TEAMS.

Scholarships...you mention that it will 'help kids pay for college' but you want to split 4 scholarships up and distribute it to the team. Soccer is a demanding sport. While some will play for the love of the game, once you begin putting all these time constraints on someone - travel, practice, study hall, team meetings - in addition to class, many student-athletes will have the mindset 'yall aint paying me enough for all this'

Not to mention the NCAA limits on scholarships for soccer are more than TWICE the number you propose.

MEAC and CIAA added bowling as a sponsored sport thinking it would be an inexpensive sport. Well, they got an awakening. The cost to rent facilities for practice and competition, the cost of travel (there are a limited number of tournaments in this region), and the cost of equipment (a lot of the women who bowl have 4 or more balls each). The differnce is our bowling teams are ompetitive on a National Level. That wouldn't be the case with Soccer.

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Where do I begin???

part-time staff??? Are you serious??? This isn't little league. Do you know how much time is required of a collegiate coach? They must recruit, maintain their inventory, schedule travel, monitor their student-athletes, complete mounds of paperwork, and the list goes on...

The point I was trying to make is they do not have to spend a lot of money finding a great coach. The head coach could be full time be maybe he can find some retired high school soccer coaches looking for something to do. Volunteers. Morgan could play games against Towson, Loyola, UMBC and the other local colleges in the area. They should not have to leave the state of Maryland.

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YOu are talking about adding it as a MEAC sport, and then mention they can only play teams in a 3hour radius...ummmm...your logic is a little flawed. How will BCU and FAMU maintain a CONFERENCE schedule while traveling in a 3 hour radius? If it is a CONFERENCE SPORT, they have to play CONFERENCE TEAMS.

If everyone played then it would be in divisions:

MEAC South
A&T
WSSU
SCST
FAMU
BCC

You could play all the teams in your division one, at a centralize spot, and the rest of the games could be played against teams in Florida.

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Scholarships...you mention that it will 'help kids pay for college' but you want to split 4 scholarships up and distribute it to the team. Soccer is a demanding sport. While some will play for the love of the game, once you begin putting all these time constraints on someone - travel, practice, study hall, team meetings - in addition to class, many student-athletes will have the mindset 'yall aint paying me enough for all this'

I would not recruit but have try outs for kids who “love the game”. I would make it clear this is really a non scholarship sport but if we have some money we will try to help you out.

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Not to mention the NCAA limits on scholarships for soccer are more than TWICE the number you propose.

I am not sure but the MEAC could do the minimum.

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MEAC and CIAA added bowling as a sponsored sport thinking it would be an inexpensive sport. Well, they got an awakening. The cost to rent facilities for practice and competition, the cost of travel (there are a limited number of tournaments in this region), and the cost of equipment (a lot of the women who bowl have 4 or more balls each). The differnce is our bowling teams are ompetitive on a National Level. That wouldn't be the case with Soccer.

If bowling is expensive then they need to drop it and add women soccer.

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Originally posted by SUJaguar79:
You guys don't have Golf and Soccer as conference sports? The SWAC added women's soccer a few years back and from the little I know in regards to Southern, it helped Title IX and didn't cost that much to implement and we are able to take from local schools as well as international students who love the game. They have even played games at Mumford Stadium before.

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Originally posted by MorganFan:
The MEAC should also consider adding men and women Golf as a conference sport (if it’s feasible).

I think golf would possibly be an easier sport to find outside sponorship for. If not it would be tough to add because it is a very expensive sport. It would be great if the MEAC & SWAC could partner with the PGA, LPGA, NGCA, & the TWF to add golf as a sponsored sport.

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Originally posted by Decks:

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Originally posted by MorganFan:
The MEAC should also consider adding men and women Golf as a conference sport (if it’s feasible).

I think golf would possibly be an easier sport to find outside sponorship for. If not it would be tough to add because it is a very expensive sport. It would be great if the MEAC & SWAC could partner with the PGA, LPGA, NGCA, & the TWF to add golf as a sponsored sport.

SWAC has already added men's and women's golf as a sponsored sport.

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Originally posted by SUJaguar79:

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Originally posted by Decks:

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Originally posted by MorganFan:
The MEAC should also consider adding men and women Golf as a conference sport (if it’s feasible).

I think golf would possibly be an easier sport to find outside sponorship for. If not it would be tough to add because it is a very expensive sport. It would be great if the MEAC & SWAC could partner with the PGA, LPGA, NGCA, & the TWF to add golf as a sponsored sport.

SWAC has already added men's and women's golf as a sponsored sport.

Thanks for the correction. I knew certain schools had teams but wasn't aware it was a conference sponsored sport. Does the conference have corporate sponsorship specifically for golf? On average how many scholarships are given?

Hampton has just started looking at adding soccer as a club sport for next year and depending on how popular and other factors..the Athletic Department has said that they would look into adding it as a varsity sport down the line. But as said no matter the sport, adding a new sport is very expensive. Mainly because of title IX. That very reason is why we don't even have a baseball team.
But before we go adding teams, i wish we could get every school competing in all of our conference sports. I know football is the hardest to do, however I wish we all had golf, and baseball and so on.

golf "to me" is not a true team sport. its kind of hard to cheer a golf team to victory. i'd rather watch a game of lacrosse than golf and i know very little about lacrosse. i actually believe soccer could succeed at hbcu's. compared to most other sports, its less expensive to operate. less equipment is needed, less facilities are needed, football fields can easily be converted to soccer fields, it’s a true team sport, it’s a sport you can cheer for, and its correct that most of our campuses have a lot of international students who love soccer. i say get rid of a sport like swimming and golf, or maybe even tennis and replace it with soccer...

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Originally posted by oleschoolaggie:
golf "to me" is not a true team sport. its kind of hard to cheer a golf team to victory. i'd rather watch a game of lacrosse than golf and i know very little about lacrosse. i actually believe soccer could succeed at hbcu's. compared to most other sports, its less expensive to operate. less equipment is needed, less facilities are needed, football fields can easily be converted to soccer fields, it’s a true team sport, it’s a sport you can cheer for, and its correct that most of our campuses have a lot of international students who love soccer. i say get rid of a sport like swimming and golf, or maybe even tennis and replace it with soccer...

Sorry, but soccer on average will cost twice as much as golf. You can field a golf team (7) with a lot fewer participants than you can for soccer (21). You also have fewer injuries in golf.

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Originally posted by MorganFan:
Morgan could play games against Towson, Loyola, UMBC and the other local colleges in the area. They should not have to leave the state of Maryland.

But that is just for Morgan. Most of the MEAC schools doesn't have the benifit of being in a city with a bunch of D-1 programs.

Adding Women's soccer would do wonders for the MEACs title IX issues, but we just don't have the cash.

Maybe if we had better conference leadership. The universities could raise more athletic dollars to fund something like this.

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Originally posted by oleschoolaggie:
golf "to me" is not a true team sport. its kind of hard to cheer a golf team to victory. i'd rather watch a game of lacrosse than golf and i know very little about lacrosse. i actually believe soccer could succeed at hbcu's. compared to most other sports, its less expensive to operate. less equipment is needed, less facilities are needed, football fields can easily be converted to soccer fields, it’s a true team sport, it’s a sport you can cheer for, and its correct that most of our campuses have a lot of international students who love soccer. i say get rid of a sport like swimming and golf, or maybe even tennis and replace it with soccer...

I actually think it would make more sense to make swimming a meac sponsored sport. I think most MEAC campuses have pools. And talk about no equipment!

Where is the money gonna come from folks? Seriously... $200,000 donation anybody?

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Originally posted by Decks:

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Originally posted by oleschoolaggie:
golf "to me" is not a true team sport. its kind of hard to cheer a golf team to victory. i'd rather watch a game of lacrosse than golf and i know very little about lacrosse. i actually believe soccer could succeed at hbcu's. compared to most other sports, its less expensive to operate. less equipment is needed, less facilities are needed, football fields can easily be converted to soccer fields, it’s a true team sport, it’s a sport you can cheer for, and its correct that most of our campuses have a lot of international students who love soccer. i say get rid of a sport like swimming and golf, or maybe even tennis and replace it with soccer...

Sorry, but soccer on average will cost twice as much as golf. You can field a golf team (7) with a lot fewer participants than you can for soccer (21). You also have fewer injuries in golf.

very true, but golf does nothing for school spirit and its virtually invisible to the rest of the student body and aggie fans. i know its wishful thinking and will probably never happen, but could you imagine how many students/fans would watch a soccer game if the holland bowl were converted to a soccer field? it would be a dream location for a competitive soccer field. you'd easily have hundreds of students at the games if scheduled around 4pm or 5pm during cafeteria peak hours for dinner. set up a couple loud speakers and pump out some jams, the joint would be rockin'. we did that anyway without a soccer game.

golf is probably cheaper and so is swimming, tennis, and bowling. i admit, i'm biased because i like soccer. but soccer is not significantly more expensive, its affordable. and if intelligently planned, could generate student support and school spirit. no matter what anyone does, golf will never generate student support or school spirit…

I'd like to see more women's sports teams, but something that could truly raise revenues! I mean, could we look into women's wrestling, or top-less volleyball.

I'd pay top dollar to see either of those two sports.

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Originally posted by Bison 4 Life:
MEAC schools tend to lack vision.We have enough students from the Carribean to add soccer and other sports.

You are absolutely correct. There is a huge Caribbean and African student population at FAMU. I remember when I would meet friends at the track to go walking after 8p, you would find a sizeable crowd(men and women) in the center of the track(the grass portion) playing soccer. It's their version of American football

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Originally posted by oleschoolaggie:
golf "to me" is not a true team sport. its kind of hard to cheer a golf team to victory.

If they are wearing Orange and Green or Green and Gold it's not

As fan of your school, I find it interesting that you would find it difficult to cheer any team representing your school

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Originally posted by #1FAMUAN:

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Originally posted by oleschoolaggie:
golf "to me" is not a true team sport. its kind of hard to cheer a golf team to victory.

If they are wearing Orange and Green or Green and Gold it's not

As fan of your school, I find it interesting that you would find it difficult to cheer any team representing your school

please do not misconstrue my comment. its hard to cheer on “any” golf team, no matter what school it is. a&t doesn’t even have a golf team, so i was not referring to my school specifically. its hard to cheer on “any” golf team because the sport itself doesn’t lend itself to team play, its very individualistic. the nature of the sport encourages quietness, there’s no home field advantage, and most students would have to leave their campus altogether just to attend a golf match. that’s why its hard to cheer on “any” golf team. and to be quite honest, i don’t even consider golf a true sport. “to me” it’s a game, not a sport. but that’s just me. nonetheless, please do not misconstrue my comment to mean its hard to cheer on a golf team that represents my school. that’s a mischaracterization of my comment…