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Ryan Perrilloux is a young man who has come of age in the limelight, and acted less than his age outside of it. If his mentality would not change with national attention and the world at his feet, there's no reason to expect different at Jackson State, Grambling University, or Alabama State; three of the colleges allegedly interested in suiting Perrilloux up in the future.

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There was some blog commentary about this kid on WJSU this morning w/some in favor of him coming to JSU and some against. I'm on my way to Happy Hour in a few minutes and see what the JSU regulars have to say.

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I disagree with this theory. Why shouldn't he come to where he probabl;y belonged in the first place. Maybe the love and caring he gets at a black college changes his outlook and he straightens up. Maybe the closeness that we all experienced at our respective schools is what he needs and he becomes successful. The low key nature of our schools may be exactly what he is looking for. So I say we do as we always do and welcome one of ours home and love him in the right direction.

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I disagree with this theory. Why shouldn't he come to where he probabl;y belonged in the first place. Maybe the love and caring he gets at a black college changes his outlook and he straightens up. Maybe the closeness that we all experienced at our respective schools is what he needs and he becomes successful. The low key nature of our schools may be exactly what he is looking for. So I say we do as we always do and welcome one of ours home and love him in the right direction.
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I disagree with this theory. Why shouldn't he come to where he probabl;y belonged in the first place. Maybe the love and caring he gets at a black college changes his outlook and he straightens up. Maybe the closeness that we all experienced at our respective schools is what he needs and he becomes successful. The low key nature of our schools may be exactly what he is looking for. So I say we do as we always do and welcome one of ours home and love him in the right direction.


I just think he needs to learn a lesson by not playing in 2008. That is the only way a person in his situation can learn not to break the rules.

Obviously a lot of people think RP is a great football player or teams would not be trying to see if he is available.

However, if coaches are only interested in Ryan the football player and not Ryan the person and student, how will he ever learn how to be responsible?

We complain so much about PWCUs using black athletes and not caring about their growth as people. If Ryan is allow to play ball shortly after being kicked off the LSU team, HBCUs would to doing the same thing as PWCUs.
 
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Love and Caring? at an HBCU? What difference does it make the school he attends? He's not a child . . . damn near a grown man. If he can't act right in a championship environment, like an LSU, wtf you think he gonna do at an HBCU?

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Love and Caring? at an HBCU? What difference does it make the school he attends? He's not a child . . . damn near a grown man. If he can't act right in a championship environment, like an LSU, wtf you think he gonna do at an HBCU?

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I disagree with this theory. Why shouldn't he come to where he probabl;y belonged in the first place. Maybe the love and caring he gets at a black college changes his outlook and he straightens up. Maybe the closeness that we all experienced at our respective schools is what he needs and he becomes successful. The low key nature of our schools may be exactly what he is looking for. So I say we do as we always do and welcome one of ours home and love him in the right direction.
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Love and Caring? at an HBCU? What difference does it make the school he attends? He's not a child . . . damn near a grown man. If he can't act right in a championship environment, like an LSU, wtf you think he gonna do at an HBCU?

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Duh! Because an HBCU could be the thing to help turn him around, with going to the right program, like FAMU with Joe Taylor with a strong spritural background that could help turn him around not only as an athlete, but as a person also!

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Love and Caring? at an HBCU? What difference does it make the school he attends? He's not a child . . . damn near a grown man. If he can't act right in a championship environment, like an LSU, wtf you think he gonna do at an HBCU?

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Duh! Because an HBCU could be the thing to help turn him around, with going to the right program, like FAMU with Joe Taylor with a strong spritural background that could help turn him around not only as an athlete, but as a person also!


It's not the team, the people at LSU or the program. It is Ryan Perrilloux who got himself kicked off the team. LSU gave him multiple chances and he blew it. Other players on the LSU team did not make bad choices.

Those players did not need to attend an HBCU to make wise decision and they were in the same environment he was. But Ryan Perrilloux does?

Makes no sense to me.

Ryan Perrilloux could go to school at the Vatican and it will not make a difference unless he makes better decisions. Everyone has this misconception that HBCU athletes don't get in trouble. It's not true at all.

Until Perrilloux decides to look in the mirror and examine how he blew a free ride at LSU, it won't matter what school he attends in the future if he never learns to take responsibility.

That means a coach should say:

"Yes, you can come to our school and get a quality education, but you can't play football until you prove that you can make better decisions." That is the only way he will learn.
 
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I disagree with this theory. Why shouldn't he come to where he probabl;y belonged in the first place. Maybe the love and caring he gets at a black college changes his outlook and he straightens up. Maybe the closeness that we all experienced at our respective schools is what he needs and he becomes successful. The low key nature of our schools may be exactly what he is looking for. So I say we do as we always do and welcome one of ours home and love him in the right direction.


I just think he needs to learn a lesson by not playing in 2008. That is the only way a person in his situation can learn not to break the rules.

Obviously a lot of people think RP is a great football player or teams would not be trying to see if he is available.

However, if coaches are only interested in Ryan the football player and not Ryan the person and student, how will he ever learn how to be responsible?

We complain so much about PWCUs using black athletes and not caring about their growth as people. If Ryan is allow to play ball shortly after being kicked off the LSU team, HBCUs would to doing the same thing as PWCUs.


The only reason he was at LSU was because they were interested in him as A FOOTBALL PLAYER. Stop any pretense of it being anything but that, puhleeze. Mad And giving him another shot at an HBCU, IF WARRANTED, would be appropriate. He may actually LEARN something while at college during the process. That also MAY be a novelty in itself. Smoke

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I disagree with this theory. Why shouldn't he come to where he probabl;y belonged in the first place. Maybe the love and caring he gets at a black college changes his outlook and he straightens up. Maybe the closeness that we all experienced at our respective schools is what he needs and he becomes successful. The low key nature of our schools may be exactly what he is looking for. So I say we do as we always do and welcome one of ours home and love him in the right direction.


I just think he needs to learn a lesson by not playing in 2008. That is the only way a person in his situation can learn not to break the rules.

Obviously a lot of people think RP is a great football player or teams would not be trying to see if he is available.

However, if coaches are only interested in Ryan the football player and not Ryan the person and student, how will he ever learn how to be responsible?

We complain so much about PWCUs using black athletes and not caring about their growth as people. If Ryan is allow to play ball shortly after being kicked off the LSU team, HBCUs would to doing the same thing as PWCUs.


The only reason he was at LSU was because they were interested in him as A FOOTBALL PLAYER. Stop any pretense of it being anything but that, puhleeze. Mad And giving him another shot at an HBCU, IF WARRANTED, would be appropriate. He may actually LEARN something while at college during the process. That also MAY be a novelty in itself. Smoke


1. The only reason HBCUs are interested in him because he is a good football player from what I understand. So, it's no difference. I really don't think schools care about his academic well-being as long as it does not prevent him from playing.

I don't think coaches are saying "Ryan would make a great addition to our psychology department. We have to jump on him."

2. Like I said, Perrilloux can go to any school he want and get a good education, but not play football for one season. He needs to learn that it is a privilege to play college football.

Heck, there are tons of athletes with half his ability who would not have chance after chance to straighten themselves out. And you know it. But because Perrilloux is a good football player, he keeps getting chances.

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1. The only reason HBCUs are interested in him because he is a good football player from what I understand. So, it's no difference. I really don't think schools care about his academic well-being as long as it does not prevent him from playing.

I don't think coaches are saying "Ryan would make a great addition to our psychology department. We have to jump on him."

2. Like I said, Perrilloux can go to any school he want and get a good education, but not play football for one season. He needs to learn that it is a privilege to play college football.

Heck, there are tons of athletes with half his ability who would not have chance after chance to straighten themselves out. And you know it. But because Perrilloux is a good football player, he keeps getting chances.


We HBCUs, unlike YOU and that other lot, have accepted the "unacceptable, the less priviliged, the tired, poor, and otherwise troubled" since our inception. Ya' dig, young pup? We take and have taken the Ryans of the world regardless of their ability to "chase that ball". LSU and that other group could NEVA say that. Understand? Mad So, if we accept him now or embrace him later, we can do it with or without him being a great athlete. As I said, if appropriate, there are many HBCUs with more to offer than just a football team. That concept appears beyond your comprehension.

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I have no problem with Ryan Perrilloux enroll in an HBCU and getting an education. He has every right to do that. However, I do have an issue with him being allowed to play football at another school, HBCU or otherwise shortly after being dismissed from LSU for making bad decisions.

That sends a really bad message to kids that no matter how many bad decisons you make it does not matter because you are a great athlete.

HBCUs were founded on the premises of giving underpriviledged black kids a chance to get a quality education when there was nowhere else to turn.

Perrilloux was given that chance at LSU. And the folks in Baton Rough got fed up with is actions and bad choices. Ryan put himself in that position. He was not denied anything.

I mean, this kid was going to the starter for the defending national champions and blew it because of poor decisons. Schools like LSU don't just let athletes like that go just because. This decision had to have come after a series of bad choices by Perrilloux.

You say "that there are many HBCUs with more to offer than just a football team." So you think Ryan is considering an HBCU because of its art department or its great history of producing educators and not to extend his football career?

I have no problem with Ryan Perrilloux playing football in college. He should be allowed to do so, but only after sitting out a season to get his priorities in order and realize that going to college and playing football is a gift from God that can't be taken for granted.
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Well I rather him be in someone's school than on someone's street corner.
 
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D@mn near sounds like while he was in Baton Rouge ... "He was at BOTH!"

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I have no problem with Ryan Perrilloux enroll in an HBCU and getting an education. He has every right to do that. However, I do have an issue with him being allowed to play football at another school, HBCU or otherwise shortly after being dismissed from LSU for making bad decisions.

That sends a really bad message to kids that no matter how many bad decisons you make it does not matter because you are a great athlete.

HBCUs were founded on the premises of giving underpriviledged black kids a chance to get a quality education when there was nowhere else to turn.

Perrilloux was given that chance at LSU. And the folks in Baton Rough got fed up with is actions and bad choices. Ryan put himself in that position. He was not denied anything.

I mean, this kid was going to the starter for the defending national champions and blew it because of poor decisons. Schools like LSU don't just let athletes like that go just because. This decision had to have come after a series of bad choices by Perrilloux.

You say "that there are many HBCUs with more to offer than just a football team." So you think Ryan is considering an HBCU because of its art department or its great history of producing educators and not to extend his football career?

I have no problem with Ryan Perrilloux playing football in college. He should be allowed to do so, but only after sitting out a season to get his priorities in order and realize that going to college and playing football is a gift from God that can't be taken for granted.
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Wow, you put up a "high and mighty" sig yet you think that a young man should be held back because of his juvenile transgressions. Someone at the age where we definitely make and made bad decisions and need guidance. I hope Ryan gets it somewhere and especially at an HBCU-in line with our mission. Understand that concept?

And you proudly talk about LSU's desire to get him and keep him like he's some piece of chattel and a good "buck slave". Thumb Down You question what type of academic program he may or may not choose yet tout the ONLY reason he was at LSU- to chase that ball. KNEEGROW PUHLEEZE! Mad

Playing football ain't no divine intervention. It's a business and he is old, tattered goods now to LSU and in need of disposal. But I guess he should be grateful that massa "liked him", huh? Thumb Down

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I have no problem with Ryan Perrilloux enroll in an HBCU and getting an education. He has every right to do that. However, I do have an issue with him being allowed to play football at another school, HBCU or otherwise shortly after being dismissed from LSU for making bad decisions.

That sends a really bad message to kids that no matter how many bad decisons you make it does not matter because you are a great athlete.

HBCUs were founded on the premises of giving underpriviledged black kids a chance to get a quality education when there was nowhere else to turn.

Perrilloux was given that chance at LSU. And the folks in Baton Rough got fed up with is actions and bad choices. Ryan put himself in that position. He was not denied anything.

I mean, this kid was going to the starter for the defending national champions and blew it because of poor decisons. Schools like LSU don't just let athletes like that go just because. This decision had to have come after a series of bad choices by Perrilloux.

You say "that there are many HBCUs with more to offer than just a football team." So you think Ryan is considering an HBCU because of its art department or its great history of producing educators and not to extend his football career?

I have no problem with Ryan Perrilloux playing football in college. He should be allowed to do so, but only after sitting out a season to get his priorities in order and realize that going to college and playing football is a gift from God that can't be taken for granted.
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Wow, you put up a "high and mighty" sig yet you think that a young man should be held back because of his juvenile transgressions. Someone at the age where we defini