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Originally posted by ¡ROCKETPWR!:

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Originally posted by JayRob:

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Originally posted by FAMUVenom:
Just Show Up ... And prove it Labor Day Weekend ...

All this prognostication of what you've been able to accomplish in MS over the years won't mean a hill of beans if y'all don't make the trek to Orlando ... So the only Thang that's gonna matter is how many folks you all put in the "Sit-Rust Bowl" on Aug. 31st.

Just Like Kanye & Pharrell ...
"You're Only As Good As Your Last Beat!"

"See You September 2nd!"

Dude that's not logical thinking at all. How many did FAMU bring to Birmingham for an opening game last season against SU? Since it was the FIRST game of the year, you'd think the numbers would've been higher than 30,000. And to top it off, Southern had more fans than you at the game, so the numbers could easily go 18,000 for Southern and only 12,000 for FAMU, and that's giving FAMU the benefit of the doubt.

When JSU played in Birmingham, the total attendance was 43,000, with at least 39,000 of the fans being JSU fans. That doesn't really matter though, simply because it's only ONE game. It's ludricous to think that a school's entire history would be based on one game, ESPECIALLY if the games' 15 hours away.

As I recall, weren't you the main one complaining about having to play twice in Orlando due to possible fan participation or lack thereof, now you're suddenly claiming attendance dominance over JSU?! Hahahaha!! Dude, you're REAL funny.

I guess you dont know what "objectively quantify" means Not only is your technique not scientific...it's not accurate either...It's obvious that you werent present in Bham for last year's challenge because purely based on observation...there were more FAMUans in Legion Field than Jags...Also the last minute date change from Sunday to Saturday had an adverse effect on the attendance numbers...In fact there were people on this same message board who could not modify their travel plans as a result of the change...

Then here you are attempting to compare the attendance between a non conference game to a SWAC championship rivalry game is about as asanine as JSU hiring that water boy Hughes for a head coach...I know you're more intelligent than that JayRob...it would make more common sense to compare this year's challenge with last year's challenge...

Also JSU's home attendance sometimes average more than FAMU's because JSU oftentimes has more home games during the season than FAMU...we avg 4 games/yr while JSU has 5 or 6...

As far as away games...there's no data that you have access to in order to objectively substatiate your claims that decent home attendance equates to decent travel...but let me know when you find that...okay???

And just because fans choose not to attend a game twice in the same city does not reflect on that school's loyal travelling fan base...it's a reflection of the economic choice driven decisions those fans have to make...C'mon JayRob...use that good ol' common sense, pal

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Originally posted by JayRob:

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Originally posted by ¡ROCKETPWR!:

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Originally posted by JayRob:

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Originally posted by FAMUVenom:
Just Show Up ... And prove it Labor Day Weekend ...

All this prognostication of what you've been able to accomplish in MS over the years won't mean a hill of beans if y'all don't make the trek to Orlando ... So the only Thang that's gonna matter is how many folks you all put in the "Sit-Rust Bowl" on Aug. 31st.

Just Like Kanye & Pharrell ...
"You're Only As Good As Your Last Beat!"

"See You September 2nd!"

Dude that's not logical thinking at all. How many did FAMU bring to Birmingham for an opening game last season against SU? Since it was the FIRST game of the year, you'd think the numbers would've been higher than 30,000. And to top it off, Southern had more fans than you at the game, so the numbers could easily go 18,000 for Southern and only 12,000 for FAMU, and that's giving FAMU the benefit of the doubt.

When JSU played in Birmingham, the total attendance was 43,000, with at least 39,000 of the fans being JSU fans. That doesn't really matter though, simply because it's only ONE game. It's ludricous to think that a school's entire history would be based on one game, ESPECIALLY if the games' 15 hours away.

As I recall, weren't you the main one complaining about having to play twice in Orlando due to possible fan participation or lack thereof, now you're suddenly claiming attendance dominance over JSU?! Hahahaha!! Dude, you're REAL funny.

I guess you dont know what "objectively quantify" means Not only is your technique not scientific...it's not accurate either...It's obvious that you werent present in Bham for last year's challenge because purely based on observation...there were more FAMUans in Legion Field than Jags...Also the last minute date change from Sunday to Saturday had an adverse effect on the attendance numbers...In fact there were people on this same message board who could not modify their travel plans as a result of the change...

Then here you are attempting to compare the attendance between a non conference game to a SWAC championship rivalry game is about as asanine as JSU hiring that water boy Hughes for a head coach...I know you're more intelligent than that JayRob...it would make more common sense to compare this year's challenge with last year's challenge...

Also JSU's home attendance sometimes average more than FAMU's because JSU oftentimes has more home games during the season than FAMU...we avg 4 games/yr while JSU has 5 or 6...

As far as away games...there's no data that you have access to in order to objectively substatiate your claims that decent home attendance equates to decent travel...but let me know when you find that...okay???

And just because fans choose not to attend a game twice in the same city does not reflect on that school's loyal travelling fan base...it's a reflection of the economic choice driven decisions those fans have to make...C'mon JayRob...use that good ol' common sense, pal

Dude, I do recall you having first mentioned that Southern and FAMU had the best traveling fanbase in HBCU football. You, by the way, showed no scientific evidence after making that statement, yet all of a sudden you want ME to present numbers? Now that's laughable.

I see you didn't dare post past attendance data comparing JSU attendance versus FAMU attendance over the past ten years.

Dude, just admit that you were mistaken in your initial deduction that Southern and FAMU had the best traveling fans in HBCU football, and be through with it.

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Originally posted by JayRob:
Dude, I do recall you having first mentioned that Southern and FAMU had the best traveling fanbase in HBCU football. You, by the way, showed no scientific evidence after making that statement, yet all of a sudden you want ME to present numbers? Now that's laughable.

I see you didn't dare post past attendance data comparing JSU attendance versus FAMU attendance over the past ten years.

Dude, just admit that you were mistaken in your initial deduction that Southern and FAMU had the best traveling fans in HBCU football, and be through with it.

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Cast-hell!!! One of yo 2's done got loose again!!!

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Originally posted by ¡ROCKETPWR!:

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Originally posted by JayRob:
Dude, I do recall you having first mentioned that Southern and FAMU had the best traveling fanbase in HBCU football. You, by the way, showed no scientific evidence after making that statement, yet all of a sudden you want ME to present numbers? Now that's laughable.

I see you didn't dare post past attendance data comparing JSU attendance versus FAMU attendance over the past ten years.

Dude, just admit that you were mistaken in your initial deduction that Southern and FAMU had the best traveling fans in HBCU football, and be through with it.

^^^Wrong guy, lil homie...

Point blank there arent any sources that provide data on how many JSU and Gram fans attended the SCG last year...or how many FAMU and SU fans attended the Challenge last year...even your estimation technique is flawed; has a large margin of error because you cant account for the non affiliated spectators...so all you can do is subjectively observe to determine which school had the most support...

Also in the last 10 years...JSU has lead FAMU in avg home attendance 5 times...Congratulations!

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Originally posted by Tigerpride:
Let's just say that I am glad that we are not playing Del State. For our fans, probably only FAMU would have been a more interesting matchup for us than Hampton. Some schools have name recognition. I don't think Hampton has a fan base but a they have a lot of people on their nuts....ala Grambling. Del State has neither. I was not interested in seeing JSU pummel BCC or Del State but I can't wait to seem us smash Hampton!

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I hope this puts to rest your theory about JSU/FAMU attendance.

"Take it from us!" ...



"You're ONLY As Good As Your LAST Beat!"

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Just Remember... "One Person's Happy Hour ... Is Another Person's DINNER!" "So ... Don't Always Believe the Hype!"

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Originally posted by FAMUVenom:

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I hope this puts to rest your theory about JSU/FAMU attendance.

"Take it from us!" ...

"You're ONLY As Good As Your LAST Beat!"

All this ancient stat s*** ain't nuthin' but that ... "S***!" ...

"Let's see what you all do on August 31st!"

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Originally posted by JayRob:

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Originally posted by ¡ROCKETPWR!:

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Originally posted by JayRob:
Dude, I do recall you having first mentioned that Southern and FAMU had the best traveling fanbase in HBCU football. You, by the way, showed no scientific evidence after making that statement, yet all of a sudden you want ME to present numbers? Now that's laughable.

I see you didn't dare post past attendance data comparing JSU attendance versus FAMU attendance over the past ten years.

Dude, just admit that you were mistaken in your initial deduction that Southern and FAMU had the best traveling fans in HBCU football, and be through with it.

^^^Wrong guy, lil homie...

Point blank there arent any sources that provide data on how many JSU and Gram fans attended the SCG last year...or how many FAMU and SU fans attended the Challenge last year...even your estimation technique is flawed; has a large margin of error because you cant account for the non affiliated spectators...so all you can do is subjectively observe to determine which school had the most support...

Also in the last 10 years...JSU has lead FAMU in avg home attendance 5 times...Congratulations!

Dude, after the b*ll boycott in 2005, it was business as usual.

In 2007, JSU led FAMU in attendance.

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/2007/Internet/attendance/IAA_ATTENDANCE.pdf

In 2006, JSU led ALL HBCU's in total attendance.

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/2006/Internet/attendance/IAA_ATTENDANCE.pdf

We led you in 2005, and that was the year we boycotted j*mes b*ll.

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/2005/Internet/attendance/IAA_ATTENDANCE.pdf

I hope this puts to rest your theory about JSU/FAMU attendance.

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"I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve."
- Isoroku Yamamoto

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Originally posted by JayRob:

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Originally posted by ¡ROCKETPWR!:

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Originally posted by JayRob:
Dude, I do recall you having first mentioned that Southern and FAMU had the best traveling fanbase in HBCU football. You, by the way, showed no scientific evidence after making that statement, yet all of a sudden you want ME to present numbers? Now that's laughable.

I see you didn't dare post past attendance data comparing JSU attendance versus FAMU attendance over the past ten years.

Dude, just admit that you were mistaken in your initial deduction that Southern and FAMU had the best traveling fans in HBCU football, and be through with it.

^^^Wrong guy, lil homie...

Point blank there arent any sources that provide data on how many JSU and Gram fans attended the SCG last year...or how many FAMU and SU fans attended the Challenge last year...even your estimation technique is flawed; has a large margin of error because you cant account for the non affiliated spectators...so all you can do is subjectively observe to determine which school had the most support...

Also in the last 10 years...JSU has lead FAMU in avg home attendance 5 times...Congratulations!

Dude, after the b*ll boycott in 2005, it was business as usual.

In 2007, JSU led FAMU in attendance.

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/2007/Internet/attendance/IAA_ATTENDANCE.pdf

In 2006, JSU led ALL HBCU's in total attendance.

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/2006/Internet/attendance/IAA_ATTENDANCE.pdf

We led you in 2005, and that was the year we boycotted j*mes b*ll.

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/2005/Internet/attendance/IAA_ATTENDANCE.pdf

I hope this puts to rest your theory about JSU/FAMU attendance.

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Originally posted by JayRob:

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Originally posted by ¡ROCKETPWR!:

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Originally posted by JayRob:
Dude, I do recall you having first mentioned that Southern and FAMU had the best traveling fanbase in HBCU football. You, by the way, showed no scientific evidence after making that statement, yet all of a sudden you want ME to present numbers? Now that's laughable.

I see you didn't dare post past attendance data comparing JSU attendance versus FAMU attendance over the past ten years.

Dude, just admit that you were mistaken in your initial deduction that Southern and FAMU had the best traveling fans in HBCU football, and be through with it.

^^^Wrong guy, lil homie...

Point blank there arent any sources that provide data on how many JSU and Gram fans attended the SCG last year...or how many FAMU and SU fans attended the Challenge last year...even your estimation technique is flawed; has a large margin of error because you cant account for the non affiliated spectators...so all you can do is subjectively observe to determine which school had the most support...

Also in the last 10 years...JSU has lead FAMU in avg home attendance 5 times...Congratulations!

Dude, after the b*ll boycott in 2005, it was business as usual.

In 2007, JSU led FAMU in attendance.

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/2007/Internet/attendance/IAA_ATTENDANCE.pdf

In 2006, JSU led ALL HBCU's in total attendance.

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/2006/Internet/attendance/IAA_ATTENDANCE.pdf

We led you in 2005, and that was the year we boycotted j*mes b*ll.

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/2005/Internet/attendance/IAA_ATTENDANCE.pdf

I hope this puts to rest your theory about JSU/FAMU attendance.

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Cast-hell!!! One of yo 2's done got loose again!!!

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Originally posted by Art of NSU:

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Originally posted by JayRob:

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Originally posted by ¡ROCKETPWR!:

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Originally posted by JayRob:
Dude, I do recall you having first mentioned that Southern and FAMU had the best traveling fanbase in HBCU football. You, by the way, showed no scientific evidence after making that statement, yet all of a sudden you want ME to present numbers? Now that's laughable.

I see you didn't dare post past attendance data comparing JSU attendance versus FAMU attendance over the past ten years.

Dude, just admit that you were mistaken in your initial deduction that Southern and FAMU had the best traveling fans in HBCU football, and be through with it.

^^^Wrong guy, lil homie...

Point blank there arent any sources that provide data on how many JSU and Gram fans attended the SCG last year...or how many FAMU and SU fans attended the Challenge last year...even your estimation technique is flawed; has a large margin of error because you cant account for the non affiliated spectators...so all you can do is subjectively observe to determine which school had the most support...

Also in the last 10 years...JSU has lead FAMU in avg home attendance 5 times...Congratulations!

Dude, after the b*ll boycott in 2005, it was business as usual.

In 2007, JSU led FAMU in attendance.

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/2007/Internet/attendance/IAA_ATTENDANCE.pdf

In 2006, JSU led ALL HBCU's in total attendance.

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/2006/Internet/attendance/IAA_ATTENDANCE.pdf

We led you in 2005, and that was the year we boycotted j*mes b*ll.

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/2005/Internet/attendance/IAA_ATTENDANCE.pdf

I hope this puts to rest your theory about JSU/FAMU attendance.

Keep in mind those are accumulated attendance numbers. FAMU only plays about 3-4 home games a year. With this in mind I believe the average mean attendance numbers would be a more accurate comparison. FAMU was higher in 05, JSU was higher in 07 & 08.

Both JSU & FAMU's averages are pretty close except every other year when the Jags roll into Jackson.

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Originally posted by JayRob:

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Originally posted by Art of NSU:

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Originally posted by JayRob:

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Originally posted by ¡ROCKETPWR!:

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Originally posted by JayRob:
Dude, I do recall you having first mentioned that Southern and FAMU had the best traveling fanbase in HBCU football. You, by the way, showed no scientific evidence after making that statement, yet all of a sudden you want ME to present numbers? Now that's laughable.

I see you didn't dare post past attendance data comparing JSU attendance versus FAMU attendance over the past ten years.

Dude, just admit that you were mistaken in your initial deduction that Southern and FAMU had the best traveling fans in HBCU football, and be through with it.

^^^Wrong guy, lil homie...

Point blank there arent any sources that provide data on how many JSU and Gram fans attended the SCG last year...or how many FAMU and SU fans attended the Challenge last year...even your estimation technique is flawed; has a large margin of error because you cant account for the non affiliated spectators...so all you can do is subjectively observe to determine which school had the most support...

Also in the last 10 years...JSU has lead FAMU in avg home attendance 5 times...Congratulations!

Dude, after the b*ll boycott in 2005, it was business as usual.

In 2007, JSU led FAMU in attendance.

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/2007/Internet/attendance/IAA_ATTENDANCE.pdf

In 2006, JSU led ALL HBCU's in total attendance.

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/2006/Internet/attendance/IAA_ATTENDANCE.pdf

We led you in 2005, and that was the year we boycotted j*mes b*ll.

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/2005/Internet/attendance/IAA_ATTENDANCE.pdf

I hope this puts to rest your theory about JSU/FAMU attendance.

Keep in mind those are accumulated attendance numbers. FAMU only plays about 3-4 home games a year. With this in mind I believe the average mean attendance numbers would be a more accurate comparison. FAMU was higher in 05, JSU was higher in 07 & 08.

Both JSU & FAMU's averages are pretty close except every other year when the Jags roll into Jackson.

It's nice of you to try and come to the aid of big brother FAMU, whose doing nothing but digging himself in a deeper hole.

The average mean attendance?! Huh? You mean you're getting credit for Tennessee State and Bethune Cookman games?

Who's fault is it that FAMU doesn't care enough about it's home field revenue to only schedule "X" amount of games? The bottom line is that according to NCAA stats and criteria, JSU has had a higher home attendance record than FAMU. If there's no evidence to provide who has the "best traveling fans" in HBCU football, why did he specifically state the names of two schools?
He's yet to provide the stats and evidence to support his theory. Instead, FAMU wants me to provide evidence to support HIS statement.

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Originally posted by ¡ROCKETPWR!:

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Originally posted by JayRob:

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Originally posted by ¡ROCKETPWR!:

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Originally posted by JayRob:
Dude, I do recall you having first mentioned that Southern and FAMU had the best traveling fanbase in HBCU football. You, by the way, showed no scientific evidence after making that statement, yet all of a sudden you want ME to present numbers? Now that's laughable.

I see you didn't dare post past attendance data comparing JSU attendance versus FAMU attendance over the past ten years.

Dude, just admit that you were mistaken in your initial deduction that Southern and FAMU had the best traveling fans in HBCU football, and be through with it.

^^^Wrong guy, lil homie...

Point blank there arent any sources that provide data on how many JSU and Gram fans attended the SCG last year...or how many FAMU and SU fans attended the Challenge last year...even your estimation technique is flawed; has a large margin of error because you cant account for the non affiliated spectators...so all you can do is subjectively observe to determine which school had the most support...

Also in the last 10 years...JSU has lead FAMU in avg home attendance 5 times...Congratulations!

Dude, after the b*ll boycott in 2005, it was business as usual.

In 2007, JSU led FAMU in attendance.

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/2007/Internet/attendance/IAA_ATTENDANCE.pdf

In 2006, JSU led ALL HBCU's in total attendance.

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/2006/Internet/attendance/IAA_ATTENDANCE.pdf

We led you in 2005, and that was the year we boycotted j*mes b*ll.

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/2005/Internet/attendance/IAA_ATTENDANCE.pdf

I hope this puts to rest your theory about JSU/FAMU attendance.

Hey dum'azz you cant compare accumulated home attendance because JSU statistically plays more home games than FAMU We only average 4 home games a year in Bragg...while JSU plays 5 in Mistuh Chollie's crib...Is that the common sense you were previously alluding to??? From now on we'll just call it 'sippi sense

So like I correctly stated before...in the last 10 years FAMU has lead JSU 5 times in avg home attendance...before Bell and even with less home games...Honestly JSU should really be thanking those 30,000 Jags that "gold" rush Memorial every other year...but in the meanwhile...do like Venom told 'ya and make sure that JSU is worth every penny of Mickey's money

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Originally posted by 2real:

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Originally posted by JayRob:

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Originally posted by Art of NSU:

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Originally posted by JayRob:

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Originally posted by ¡ROCKETPWR!:

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Originally posted by JayRob:
Dude, I do recall you having first mentioned that Southern and FAMU had the best traveling fanbase in HBCU football. You, by the way, showed no scientific evidence after making that statement, yet all of a sudden you want ME to present numbers? Now that's laughable.

I see you didn't dare post past attendance data comparing JSU attendance versus FAMU attendance over the past ten years.

Dude, just admit that you were mistaken in your initial deduction that Southern and FAMU had the best traveling fans in HBCU football, and be through with it.

^^^Wrong guy, lil homie...

Point blank there arent any sources that provide data on how many JSU and Gram fans attended the SCG last year...or how many FAMU and SU fans attended the Challenge last year...even your estimation technique is flawed; has a large margin of error because you cant account for the non affiliated spectators...so all you can do is subjectively observe to determine which school had the most support...

Also in the last 10 years...JSU has lead FAMU in avg home attendance 5 times...Congratulations!

Dude, after the b*ll boycott in 2005, it was business as usual.

In 2007, JSU led FAMU in attendance.

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/2007/Internet/attendance/IAA_ATTENDANCE.pdf

In 2006, JSU led ALL HBCU's in total attendance.

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/2006/Internet/attendance/IAA_ATTENDANCE.pdf

We led you in 2005, and that was the year we boycotted j*mes b*ll.

http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/2005/Internet/attendance/IAA_ATTENDANCE.pdf

I hope this puts to rest your theory about JSU/FAMU attendance.

Keep in mind those are accumulated attendance numbers. FAMU only plays about 3-4 home games a year. With this in mind I believe the average mean attendance numbers would be a more accurate comparison. FAMU was higher in 05, JSU was higher in 07 & 08.

Both JSU & FAMU's averages are pretty close except every other year when the Jags roll into Jackson.

It's nice of you to try and come to the aid of big brother FAMU, whose doing nothi