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jafus and bio-cat, i appreciate your explanations. its very helpful and really sheds light on some things. however, i don't care what the relationship is between the commish and the board, they're still a governing body with a responsibility to make decisions for the conference. there's simply no excuse for taking two plus years to figure out whether to lift the moratorium or not, and to admit nccu or not.

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if they're incapable of making a decision, they should say so. don't just sit there and say nothing, especially for two years. if the board can't agree on anything, then say they can't agree on anything. i understand 12 presidents/chancellors don't always think the same. i can accept that. but what's unacceptable is seemingly no progress on this subject and no explanations to the membership for two long years. i've never been to a board meeting but i have no doubt that the meac office is aware that the membership and meac supporters in general would like to know what the hail is going on with expansion. being mute on this subject makes the leadership, the executive board, and the meac look awfully inept…

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I still maintain that a conference commissioner should have the ability to consolidate views and ideas from individuals with separate agendas. If half of the presidents don't agree with DT and half do, what does that accomplish. That is why we need a commmissioner that can bring them together.

If the issues Bio and Jafus refer to, infighting among the presidents, lack of vision with respect to the conference, etc are SOP's for the MEAC, coupled with a commissioner who lacks the ability to bring about change, then we are indeed "up the creek without a paddle!"

If this is all true, then the MEAC is just a microcosm of Detroit.

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Virginia Tech benefits from having more conference money than it did in the Big East. The largest payout Tech got from the Big East was about $5.1 million, which occurred when the Hokies won the 1999 conference title and played for the national championship, Weaver said.
Unlike the Big East, the ACC's annual payment is not performance-based. Each school receives the same amount - about $9.3 million in fiscal 2007 - plus a travel allowance for bowls and other championship tournaments.
ACC membership has also been a boon for men's basketball at Tech. Ticket sales for Tech's last season in the Big East, 2003-04, were $1.3 million. That figure grew to $1.8 million in 2004-05, the first year in the ACC, and to $1.97 million in the 2006-07 season, the latest for which figures are available.

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Originally posted by Jafus (Thinker):
T. C. Cat,

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I still maintain that a conference commissioner should have the ability to consolidate views and ideas from individuals with separate agendas. If half of the presidents don't agree with DT and half do, what does that accomplish. That is why we need a commmissioner that can bring them together.

If the issues Bio and Jafus refer to, infighting among the presidents, lack of vision with respect to the conference, etc are SOP's for the MEAC, coupled with a commissioner who lacks the ability to bring about change, then we are indeed "up the creek without a paddle!"

If this is all true, then the MEAC is just a microcosm of Detroit.

True, the MEAC is just a microcosm of world. That is the very reason I have taken the time to explain the framework and difficulties that take place in such an organization. Again, we saw the very same situation play out in the ACC, an organization that has multiple advantages compared to the MEAC.


This article is an excellent example of the dynamics involved in the revenue sharing issue.

Move to ACC is paying off for Virginia Tech

http://hamptonroads.com/2008/05/move-acc-paying-virginia-tech

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Virginia Tech benefits from having more conference money than it did in the Big East. The largest payout Tech got from the Big East was about $5.1 million, which occurred when the Hokies won the 1999 conference title and played for the national championship, Weaver said.
Unlike the Big East, the ACC's annual payment is not performance-based. Each school receives the same amount - about $9.3 million in fiscal 2007 - plus a travel allowance for bowls and other championship tournaments.
ACC membership has also been a boon for men's basketball at Tech. Ticket sales for Tech's last season in the Big East, 2003-04, were $1.3 million. That figure grew to $1.8 million in 2004-05, the first year in the ACC, and to $1.97 million in the 2006-07 season, the latest for which figures are available.

As a case study analysis, what do you do as the MEAC commissioner if the following is taking place?

Bethune Cookman University’s president states she will vote for the expansion plan that only includes both North Carolina Central University and Savannah State University only after the come of off NCAA probation, a scheduling format and revenue sharing policy like the ACC.


Coppin State University’s president states he will vote for the expansion plan that only includes both North Carolina Central University and Savannah State University only after the come of off NCAA probation, a basketball scheduling format like the Atlantic 10, football scheduling format like the Big XII, and revenue sharing policy like the ACC.

Delaware State University’s president states he will not vote for any expansion plan and supports the revenue sharing policy like the Big East Conference.

Florida A & M University’s president states he will vote for the expansion plan that only includes both North Carolina Central University and Savannah State University only after the come of off NCAA probation, a basketball scheduling format like the Atlantic 10, football scheduling format like the Big XII, and revenue sharing policy like the Big East Conference.


Hampton University’s president states he will vote for the expansion plan that only includes North Carolina Central University, scheduling basketball like the Sunbelt Conference, football format like the Big Ten Conference and revenue sharing policy like the ACC.


Howard University’s president states he will vote for the expansion plan that includes North Carolina Central University only, scheduling basketball like the Sunbelt Conference, football format like the Big Ten Conference and revenue sharing policy like the Big Ten Conference.


Morgan State University’s presidents states he will vote for the expansion plan that only includes both North Carolina Central University and Savannah State University only after the come of off NCAA probation, a basketball scheduling format like the Atlantic 10, football scheduling format like the ACC, and revenue sharing policy like the ACC.



Norfolk State University’s presidents states she will vote for the expansion plan that includes North Carolina Central University only, scheduling basketball like the Sunbelt Conference, football format like the Big Ten Conference and revenue sharing policy like the Big Ten Conference.



North Carolina A & T State University’s president states he will vote for the expansion plan that includes North Carolina Central University, scheduling basketball like the Sunbelt Conference, football format and revenue sharing policy like the Big Ten Conference or vote for both North Carolina Central University and Savannah State University, a basketball scheduling format like the Atlantic 10, football scheduling format like the Big XII, and revenue sharing policy like the Big East Conference.

South Carolina State University’s president states he will vote for the expansion plan that includes North Carolina Central University and Savannah State University, a basketball scheduling format like the Atlantic 10, football scheduling format like the SEC, and revenue sharing policy like the ACC.

Winston-Salem State University’s president states he will vote for the expansion plan that only includes both North Carolina Central University and Savannah State University only after the come of off NCAA probation, a basketball scheduling format like the Atlantic 10, football scheduling format like the SEC, and revenue sharing policy like the Big East Conference.



University of Maryland at Eastern Shore’s president states she will not vote for any expansion plan and supports the revenue sharing policy like the Big East Conference.


The Big East Conference revenue sharing policy is a performance-based formula.


The ACC revenue sharing policy basically splits the revenue evenly between each member school evenly.

The Big Ten Conference revenue sharing policy is a mix between the ACC and Big East Conference based on a point system similarly to the NCAA.


The various ACC, Atlantic 10, Big XII, Big East Conference, Big Ten Conference, Sunbelt Conference scheduling formats are shown below:



There are several examples of format out there that the MEAC could evaluate and view if it fits their model, i.e. FCS - {(i.e. formerly I-AA) - (SWAC and CAA [formerly the Atlantic 10 Conference])} or FBS -{(i.e. formerly I-A) - (SEC, Big XII, ACC and Big Ten (11)).

All of the conferences have similar but different alignments that allow them do what is best for aligning rivalries and economic synergy.

First a 11-member conference in terms of football would need to seriously evaluate the Big Ten (11) scheduling model of a 8-game conference slate that consist of maintain key rivalries (i.e. Michigan vs. Ohio State, Michigan vs. Michigan State, Indiana vs. Purdue and Wisconsin vs. Minnesota) were other less than historic key rivals rotate of the schedule every two years on a home and home basis.

This would create a 13-member conference for basketball and should evaluate the MAC basketball conference scheduling alignment from a year or two ago.

MEAC Football
1) Bethune-Cookman University
2) Delaware State University
3) Florida A & M University
4) Hampton University
5) Howard University
6) Morgan State University
7) Norfolk State University
8) North Carolina A & T State University
9) *North Carolina Central University
10) South Carolina State University
11) Winston-Salem State University

*Currently not a conference member

Second a 12-member alignment has several options:

MEAC Football
Northern Division:
1) Delaware State University
2) Hampton University
3) Howard University
4) Morgan State University
5) Norfolk State University
6) North Carolina A & T State University

Southern Division:
7) Bethune-Cookman University
8) Florida A & M University
9) *North Carolina Central University
10) *Savannah State University
11) South Carolina State University
12) Winston-Salem State University

Option 1:
Big XII Conference alignment scheduling format does not place a major consideration on intra-divisional rivalries (i.e. Oklahoma vs. Nebraska). The scheduling format is set-up such that a divisional program will play the five members in their inter-divisional and three programs from their intra-divisional alignment on a home and home basis over two years and rotate between the other three intra-divisional opponents over the next two years. This is the scheduling model of an 8-game conference slate. So in this option it did not allow Southern Division member Oklahoma to maintain it old Big 8 rivalry with Northern Division member and intra-divisional foe Nebraska.


Option 2a:
SEC original alignment scheduling format does place a major consideration on intra-divisional rivalries (i.e. Alabama vs. Tennessee). The scheduling format is set-up such that a divisional program will play the five members in their inter-divisional and maintain two intra-divisional rivals on a home and home basis over two years and rotate between one other intra-divisional opponent over the next two years that allowed conference members to view every conference member over an 8-year cycle. This is the scheduling model of an 8-game conference slate. So in this option allowed Western Division member Alabama maintained it old SEC rivalry with Eastern Division members and intra-divisional, foe Tennessee and Florida.

Option 2b:
SEC current alignment scheduling format places a lower consideration on intra-divisional rivalries (i.e. Alabama vs. Tennessee) since new rivalries have emerged between the new expansion inter-divisional foes. The scheduling format is set-up such that a divisional program will play the five members in their inter-divisional and maintain one intra-divisional rival on a home and home basis over two years and rotate between two other intra-divisional opponents over the next two years that allowed conference members to view every conference member over a 6-year cycle. This is the scheduling model of an 8-game conference slate. So in this option allowed Western Division member Alabama maintained it old SEC rivalry with Eastern Division member and intra-divisional, foe Tennessee, not Florida.


Option 3:
ACC current alignment scheduling format places a major consideration on intra-divisional rivalries (i.e. Florida State vs. Miami). It should be noted that the ACC did not divide the two divisionals under geographical alignment. The scheduling format is set-up such that a divisional program will play the five members in their inter-divisional and maintain one intra-divisional rival on a home and home basis over two years and rotate between two other intra-divisional opponents over the next two years that allowed conference members to view every conference member over an 8-year cycle. * Football Note: Teams play all five opponents in own division plus one primary crossover (directly across on grid) in the opposite division and two rotating opponents in opposite division. This is the scheduling model of an 8-game conference slate. So in this option allowed Atlantic Division member Florida State maintained it old rivalry with Coastal Division member and intra-divisional, foe Miami. While it also maintain the Atlantic Division member North Carolina State rivalry with Coastal Division member North Carolina. It did not facilitate maintaining the old rivalry between the Atlantic Division member North Carolina State rivalry with Coastal Division member Duke.

This would create a 14-member conference for basketball and should evaluate the Atlantic-10 (14) basketball conference scheduling alignment. The difficulty becomes the scheduling road trip partners for two 7-divisional member alignments.

Third a 14-member alignment has several options:

MEAC Basketball
Northern Division:
1) Coppin State University
2) Delaware State University
3) Hampton University
4) Howard University
5) Morgan State University
6) Norfolk State University
7) University at Maryland at Eastern Shore

Southern Division:
8) Bethune-Cookman University
9) Florida A & M University
10) North Carolina A & T State University
11) *North Carolina Central University
12) *Savannah State University
13) South Carolina State University
14) Winston-Salem State University

Note: Inter-divisional = with-in division and intra-division = between the two divisions.

I have some more information, but I have to take some clients out to view the NCAA tournament games.

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Originally posted by Pook:
What does SSU offer to the conference except another team?

I have ZERO knowledge of SSU in regards to fan base, competitiveness, facilites etc. NCCU I can see and expect to see in the conference. SSU? Someone please school me on its benefits to the MEAC

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http://www.tnstate.edu/

"Success is to be measured not so much by the position that one has reached in life as by the obstacles which he has overcome while trying to succeed." -B.T. Washington

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Originally posted by Alpha72:
You think anybody at the HNIC office was gonna tell us anything? I wanna know how he got it and who gave it to him. Until he posted that, all we ever got outta V Beach was whatever Marty Mart put in that little newspaper. So, I'm just curious cause they treat information up there like it's some secret recipe for a nuke or something.

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oleschoolaggie, coming to an hbcu near you...

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As a case study analysis, what do you do as the MEAC commissioner if the following is taking place?