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Originally posted by ¡ROCKETPWR!:

Also the attendance figures presented are paid attendance...I've seen the pics of the JSU/SU 06 game and the stadium looked packed...but the numbers dictated only 40K...I seriously doubt that JSU is comp'ing 20K tickets...so ProudPirate's "illusion" theory may actually hold some validity...otherwise I dont understand why the previous stadium manager (Who was it BTW???) would undercount JSU's attendance...Would someone from JSU please explain the "conspiracy"???

The stadium will continue to be under the direction of the Mississippi Stadium Commission until July 1, 2008.
That entire Board will be done away with July 1, and the Department of Finance will take over maintaining the stadium and paying the bill's.

As for the undercount, it was in the stadium commission best interest to undercount.
The larger the official count, the more TAXES THEY WOULD HAVE TO GIVE UP based on a certain percentage of ticket sales.

The smaller the count, less taxes on ticket sales percentage wise and they pocket more money for their budget and operating expenses.

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Originally posted by FAMUVenom:
Seems that the timetable might be pushed up a LOT further ... If YOU all got an Initiative together, and started pooling your loot, and started to exert a little pressure on the State to at least show that if you all build it we WILL be able to support it after that!

This so called "pimp" deal you all speak of seems to only be a temporary way to keep you all quiet until THEY decide what THEY are gonna do with that lot ... And whatever you all eventually get you're content with it.

Why not get something together to show your state that once they help build it, you all have the folks in place that will take it from there ... instead of wait another decade or so?

And FTR ... What other events are being played there that you all will be making loot from?

The school is well ahead of you, sir. Money is set aside. Land is earmarked. Nobody is sitting back and waiting. The school has done its part.

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Originally posted by robber:

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Originally posted by FAMUVenom:
Seems that the timetable might be pushed up a LOT further ... If YOU all got an Initiative together, and started pooling your loot, and started to exert a little pressure on the State to at least show that if you all build it we WILL be able to support it after that!

This so called "pimp" deal you all speak of seems to only be a temporary way to keep you all quiet until THEY decide what THEY are gonna do with that lot ... And whatever you all eventually get you're content with it.

Why not get something together to show your state that once they help build it, you all have the folks in place that will take it from there ... instead of wait another decade or so?

And FTR ... What other events are being played there that you all will be making loot from?

The school is well ahead of you, sir. Money is set aside. Land is earmarked. Nobody is sitting back and waiting. The school has done its part.

Hey Robber.

Man.
I wish I could drop some of these poster's off at Dalton and Lynch with a photo of JSU 8 year's ago and let them see what's there now.

JSU's campus has expanded 4 fold and the building continues.

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Originally posted by jsu-83:

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Originally posted by ¡ROCKETPWR!:

Also the attendance figures presented are paid attendance...I've seen the pics of the JSU/SU 06 game and the stadium looked packed...but the numbers dictated only 40K...I seriously doubt that JSU is comp'ing 20K tickets...so ProudPirate's "illusion" theory may actually hold some validity...otherwise I dont understand why the previous stadium manager (Who was it BTW???) would undercount JSU's attendance...Would someone from JSU please explain the "conspiracy"???

The stadium will continue to be under the direction of the Mississippi Stadium Commission until July 1, 2008.
That entire Board will be done away with July 1, and the Department of Finance will take over maintaining the stadium and paying the bill's.

As for the undercount, it was in the stadium commission best interest to undercount.
The larger the official count, the more TAXES THEY WOULD HAVE TO GIVE UP based on a certain percentage of ticket sales.

The smaller the count, less taxes on ticket sales percentage wise and they pocket more money for their budget and operating expenses.

Just hope you all are actually taking a bit of a more PROactive approach with this arrangement as of July 1st ... Because the NEW number crunchers taking this over will only seem to be interested in minimizing their Bottom Line, and not in necessarily making sure you all's best interests are served.

Number crunchers not necessarily in the business of running & maximizing stadiums are gonna do as LITTLE as they need to in order to keep the joint operating, so I just hope you guys don't allow yourselves to be sold short strictly for the sake of being able to play there free, and beleive that you all will be expecting some financial windfall.

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209 (2) The Department of Finance and Administration shall grant
210 Jackson State University the right to hold any of its sports,
211 ceremonial and concert events at the Mississippi Veterans Memorial
212 Stadium without any rental payment, and shall allow the proper
213 signage designating the stadium as the home stadium of Jackson
214 State University. All profits realized by the Department of
215 Finance and Administration after paying all expenses and costs,
216 including management fees, from any event held on stadium property
217 shall be deposited to the credit of a special fund and authorized
218 for expenditure by the Board of Trustees of State Institutions of
219 Higher Learning exclusively for Jackson State University.

Just seems as though you all may be about to experience a whole lotta Bottom Line "fuzzy math" heading your way as it relates to arriving at true "profits" - especially since you all seem to be "Masters of the Undercount" - and you all might indeed have NOTHING to show for this exept the amount of loot YOU all receive from your OWN contests in the Stadium ... and a sign hanging on it.

" ... Or GET 'd!" ... So we hope you all actually do some actual number crunching of your OWN.

BTW JSU-83 ... You guys know how much "profit" have all these events you listed been generating for the current Commission?

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Originally posted by FAMUVenom:

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Originally posted by jsu-83:

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Originally posted by ¡ROCKETPWR!:

Also the attendance figures presented are paid attendance...I've seen the pics of the JSU/SU 06 game and the stadium looked packed...but the numbers dictated only 40K...I seriously doubt that JSU is comp'ing 20K tickets...so ProudPirate's "illusion" theory may actually hold some validity...otherwise I dont understand why the previous stadium manager (Who was it BTW???) would undercount JSU's attendance...Would someone from JSU please explain the "conspiracy"???

The stadium will continue to be under the direction of the Mississippi Stadium Commission until July 1, 2008.
That entire Board will be done away with July 1, and the Department of Finance will take over maintaining the stadium and paying the bill's.

As for the undercount, it was in the stadium commission best interest to undercount.
The larger the official count, the more TAXES THEY WOULD HAVE TO GIVE UP based on a certain percentage of ticket sales.

The smaller the count, less taxes on ticket sales percentage wise and they pocket more money for their budget and operating expenses.

Just hope you all are actually taking a bit of a more PROactive approach with this arrangement as of July 1st ... Because the NEW number crunchers taking this over will only seem to be interested in minimizing their Bottom Line, and not in necessarily making sure you all's best interests are served.

Number crunchers not necessarily in the business of running & maximizing stadiums are gonna do as LITTLE as they need to in order to keep the joint operating, so I just hope you guys don't allow yourselves to be sold short strictly for the sake of being able to play there free, and beleive that you all will be expecting some financial windfall.

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209 (2) The Department of Finance and Administration shall grant
210 Jackson State University the right to hold any of its sports,
211 ceremonial and concert events at the Mississippi Veterans Memorial
212 Stadium without any rental payment, and shall allow the proper
213 signage designating the stadium as the home stadium of Jackson
214 State University. All profits realized by the Department of
215 Finance and Administration after paying all expenses and costs,
216 including management fees, from any event held on stadium property
217 shall be deposited to the credit of a special fund and authorized
218 for expenditure by the Board of Trustees of State Institutions of
219 Higher Learning exclusively for Jackson State University.

Just seems as though you all may be about to experience a whole lotta Bottom Line "fuzzy math" heading your way as it relates to arriving at true "profits" - especially since you all seem to be "Masters of the Undercount" - and you all might indeed have NOTHING to show for this exept the amount of loot YOU all receive from your OWN contests in the Stadium ... and a sign hanging on it.

" ... Or GET 'd!" ... So we hope you all actually do some actual number crunching of your OWN.

BTW ... You guys know how much "profit" have all these events listed been generating for the current Commission?

Just admit that no matter what, you still gonna be on that YT pimpin' tip so what's the point of explaining thing's to you.


JSU, having a deal in place for Memorial, building a stadium now with all the campus/West Jackson developement project's going on would be like negro's putting $5,000 rim's on a $2 car parked in front of a $200 flop house.

Why in he!! should we rush building a stadium just to please people that have never set foot on campus or even Mississippi for the most part.

Again.
This is some funny stuff posted over here concerning JSU.

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Just admit that no matter what, you still gonna be on that YT pimpin' tip so what's the point of explaining thing's to you.

All you had to say is "NO ... I/we don't know!"

... But then again ... "You just did!"

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Originally posted by FAMUVenom:

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Just admit that no matter what, you still gonna be on that YT pimpin' tip so what's the point of explaining thing's to you.

"All you had to say is "NO ... I don't know!"

All you had to say is "This is my one trick".

YT this.............YT that.
OH lawd. :lol:

Besides.
You know more about politic's in Mississippi and JSU than we do so why don't you tell US what the deal is.

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Don't know about the "politics" out there ... But we d@mn sure know what the potential for being 'd due to "fuzzy math" & "creative accounting" looks like ... In any state - and from ANY angle!

If you're all content with it, at least having the use of a city barn for a few years without paying RENT - NOT necessarily the costs of turning on the lights, parking, security, and concession personnel, and all the other auxiliary costs that go into the events you all may have there (" ") - until they decide what they want to do ain't all that bad ... But just don't be pissed in a few years if that's essentially ALL you wind up with out of this deal until THEY decide what THEY wanna do with that lot ... Because they're definitely gonna be content to just wait & sit out doing anythang they don't have to do for you ...

And especially as long as you all do absolutely nothing ... and let it.



"Let's just hope that you all don't wind up OWING the "New Krew On The Books"... after everythang is tallied up in the future!"

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Originally posted by robber:

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Originally posted by TightEye:
Are we the MEACFANS just being hard on our HBCU brethren Jackson State? I say no……I think the JSU fans have an inferiority and superiority complex when it comes to its traditional football success. JSU had inferiority complex due to the fact that this Mississippi school is the bottom of the UM system in every aspect of higher education and superiority because it pads its winning statistics by dismantling the Paul Quinn’s, Alcorn State’s, and the SWAC. Here’s a look at their “success” versus the SWAC:

Alabama A&M- 11-7- 0 (61%)

Alabama St. - 27-9-1 (74%)

Alcorn St. (MS) - 39-27-1 (58%)

Arkansas-Pine Bluff- 19-10-1 (65%)

Grambling St. (LA) 21-35-1 (37%)

Mississippi Valley St. 48-5-2 (89%)

Prairie View A&M (TX) 34-14-2 (70%)

Southern (LA) 25-27-0 (48%)

Texas Southern 35-16-1 (68%)

Against two (2) of the SWAC big three (3) with JSU being the third:

46-62-1 (42%) hummm……only win 4 out of 10


Against the rest of the SWAC:

213-88-8 (69%) pad the stats & win 7 out of 10


Against other FCS conferences:

Big Sky Conference 0-1-0 (0%)

Colonial Athletic Association 0-1-0 (0%)

Gateway Football Conference 0-2-0 (0%)

Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference 25-20-2 (55%)

Ohio Valley Conference 18-24-2 (43%)

Southern Conference 0-1-0 (0%)

Southland Conference 7-10-0 (41%)

Out of Conference (OCC) record vs. FCS: 50-59-4 (44.2%)

OCC record without the MEAC: 25-39-2 (38%)

Therefore, let’s look at the facts about why JSU takes the meaning throwback stadium to heart and why they (JSU) will not have a new stadium in the near future.

A decade of JSU attendance:

[Year: Avg. attendance (home games)]

2007: 16100 (6)

2006: 20314 (5)

2005: 14597 (5)

2004: 13504 (3)

2003: 18196 (5)

2002: 23691 (4)

2001: 29067 (5)

2000: 11690 (5)

1999: 28933 (6)

1998: 14277 (4)

10 year average attendance: 19037

10 year average attendance vs. capacity: 31.5% full at Mississippi Veterans Memorial Stadium (60492)

Possible new stadium should be 25K-30K capacity and versus 10 year attendance data will be 76.1% capacity (at 25K) and 63.5% capacity (at 30K).

Well, I see why the state of Mississippi won’t waste the mullah to purchase JSU a home field. Hey, if JSU fans won’t attend JSU games then I guess it’s up to the visiting team to have a home away from home.

You are a certified JSU hater. Your posts are always negative when it comes to JSU. You even sensationalized the title to this thread to further illustrate your hate. You have no idea about what you're talking about. First, there are always more people at the games than is credited. Always. Whether they get counted, they are there. Secondly, we believe that an on-campus stadium will automatically boost attendance by virtue of the game being on campus. Enjoy campus and the game. The atmosphere is more conducive to a college game. And as I've said before, a new stadium wasn't approved last session, because legislators questioned why they just put millions into Memorial only to tear it down now.

Now, I'm really trying to figure out how someone from your school would dare mention attendance. And then you go and question who JSU plays and beats. What does that have to do with anything??? Nothing. Yet you somehow manage to try to make it relevant.

OK, please allow me to clear the air on a few matters........

TIGHTEYE AS A JSU HATER: I do not hate anything. I would just appreciate if the JSU fans on the board had discussions using facts instead of assumptions, emotion, hearsay, or make believe wishes. In other words, be honest and come back from never never land.

ATTENDANCE: Tennessee State University playing at LP Field actually make out attendance seem paltry. Here's the real data:

[Year: Avg. attendance (home games)]

2007: 16278 (4)

2006: 12570 (5)

2005: 15023 (5)

2004: 14610 (4)

2003: 12699 (5)

2002: 10974 (5)

2001: 10128 (5)

2000: 13987 (4)

1999: 19518 (5)

1998: 17083 (3)

10 year average attendance: 14287

Lifetime average attendance vs. capacity: 20.3% full at LP Field

The last season (1998-17083) at Hale Stadium (10000) was 1.71% capacity which equates to 71% over capacity at our on campus stadium.

New Hale Stadium should be 25K-30K capacity and versus 10 year attendance data will be 57.1% capacity (at 25K) and 48% capacity (at 30K).

Now consider that JSU has played at Memorial Stadium filling it only to 25% of its capacity for the past ten (10) years. That's why JSU's attendance looks so bad as well. A smaller stadium would do wonders for their perceived success in attendance and winning.

UNDERCOUNTS: please use facts to support your arguments and not “hookups" at the gate . The NCAA does a fair and great job with attendance. It seems the problem lies with JSU since no one else seems to have this problem. Please note that neutral sites should not count because it does not directly benefit the campus although it indirectly assists the athletic budget and sometimes prestige.

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And then you go and question who JSU plays and beats. What does that have to do with anything??? Nothing. Yet you somehow manage to try to make it relevant.

Well, Robber I hate to inform you that who you play has everything to do with attendance. If TSU played an all HBCU schedule our attendance would be through the roof. We (TSU) are still in the top 20 (top 10 6 times between 2007-1998) in NCAA FCS attendance every year. Fans are draw to game not only by traditional or alumni support but by key match ups. For example, the buzz at TSU is the game on 9/6/2008 versus Southern will be off the hook and LP field wont be below 50% capacity that day fo sho! Who does JSU play to spark interest outside the conference other than TSU (it's in Memphis)? JSU's AD needs to add some team like Tuskegee to get a blockbuster home game and you will see the difference. If this is not the truth you still believe in the Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny.

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They will first start by defending JSU. Then they're gonna tell us how great JSU is and how the MEAC can't compete against JSU. Finally they will do what they do best (especially TigerPride); devert the attention from the issue/topic and start bashing posters who comment and their respective universities.

Gonna start calling you Phrophet

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Originally posted by JayRob:...

First of all, Memorial Stadium is perhaps the best home stadium in all of HBCU football.
The Saints played there two/three years ago. The stadium recently had a multi-million dollar facelift, so why is the reporter even talking about codes to begin with? Hmmm.

^
I'm thinking LP Field is "perhaps" the best home stadium in all of HBCU football.

However, it is not the best home environment among HBCU's. It's too big for TSU and from all counts Memorial is too big for JSU.

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Originally posted by TSU Tiger Fan:

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Originally posted by JayRob:...

First of all, Memorial Stadium is perhaps the best home stadium in all of HBCU football.
The Saints played there two/three years ago. The stadium recently had a multi-million dollar facelift, so why is the reporter even talking about codes to begin with? Hmmm.

^
I'm thinking LP Field is "perhaps" the best home stadium in all of HBCU football.

However, it is not the best home environment among HBCU's. It's too big for TSU and from all counts Memorial is too big for JSU.

Dude, it's quite obvious that YOU haven't done your homework. First of all, all of the D-1AA HBCU's play in Memorial, especially when there's a huge crowd expected.

Memorial is the ONLY HBCU venue in the ENTIRE state of Mississippi that can hold more than 25,000 fans.

For the SU/Grambling game, they have the Superdome, in Louisiana. For the FAMU/BCU game, they have the nearby stadium in Orlando. For the Bama State/Bama A&M Magic City Classic, they have Legion Field in Birmingham to fall back on. For Howard, they have RFK to fall back on. For Tennessee State, they have the Liberty Bowl or the Titan's Stadium as an option.

HBCU schools in Mississippi have NO OTHER VENUE OTHER THAN MEMORIAL. We certainly wouldn't want to play games on Ole Miss's campus, nor any other predominantly White school.

If JSU gets a 25,000 seat stadium, it would mean that games against Alcorn, Southern, Grambling and Valley would only result in around 25,000 people in total attendance, half of the normal averaged crowd.

Now if we had a nearby stadium in Mississippi that could accomodate those crowds above 25,000 fans, we perhaps would settle for a 30-35,000 seat stadium, but we don't. THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE, we don't.

The aforementioned schools TAKE FOR GRANTED that they have nearby stadiums to accomodate big game crowds. HBCU's in Mississippi don't have that luxury or option.

The above information HAS to be taken into consideration and must be added to the discussion regarding the size of JSU's on campus stadium.

If the aforementioned schools didn't have those larger stadiums nearby, the same fans of those schools would be yelling and screaming that they needed a larger stadium.

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Originally posted by TightEye:
A decade of JSU attendance:

[Year: Avg. attendance (home games)]

2007: 16100 (6)

2006: 20314 (5)

2005: 14597 (5)

2004: 13504 (3)

2003: 18196 (5)

2002: 23691 (4)

2001: 29067 (5)

2000: 11690 (5)

1999: 28933 (6)

1998: 14277 (4)

10 year average attendance: 19037

Which years was SU/JSU played in New Orleans???

When did JSU/Alcorn move to Memorial annually???

Were SU/JSU (New Orleans) and JSU/Alcorn (Memorial) considered neutral sites and not included in the home averages???

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Originally posted by robber:

You'd need to attend a JSU game to understand the severity of the undercounts. Machiavelli is the only person I know if that has been to games in Jackson and says there are no undercounts.

When did the undercounting start?

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Originally posted by JayRob:

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Originally posted by TSU Tiger Fan:

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Originally posted by JayRob:...

First of all, Memorial Stadium is perhaps the best home stadium in all of HBCU football.
The Saints played there two/three years ago. The stadium recently had a multi-million dollar facelift, so why is the reporter even talking about codes to begin with? Hmmm.

^
I'm thinking LP Field is "perhaps" the best home stadium in all of HBCU football.

However, it is not the best home environment among HBCU's. It's too big for TSU and from all counts Memorial is too big for JSU.

Dude, it's quite obvious that YOU haven't done your homework. First of all, all of the D-1AA HBCU's play in Memorial, especially when there's a huge crowd expected.

Memorial is the ONLY HBCU venue in the ENTIRE state of Mississippi that can hold more than 25,000 fans.

For the SU/Grambling game, they have the Superdome, in Louisiana. For the FAMU/BCU game, they have the nearby stadium in Orlando. For the Bama State/Bama A&M Magic City Classic, they have Legion Field in Birmingham to fall back on. For Howard, they have RFK to fall back on. For Tennessee State, they have the Liberty Bowl or the Titan's Stadium as an option.

HBCU schools in Mississippi have NO OTHER VENUE OTHER THAN MEMORIAL. We certainly wouldn't want to play games on Ole Miss's campus, nor any other predominantly White school.

If JSU gets a 25,000 seat stadium, it would mean that games against Alcorn, Southern, Grambling and Valley would only result in around 25,000 people in total attendance, half of the normal averaged crowd.

Now if we had a nearby stadium in Mississippi that could accomodate those crowds above 25,000 fans, we perhaps would settle for a 30-35,000 seat stadium, but we don't. THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE, we don't.

The aforementioned schools TAKE FOR GRANTED that they have nearby stadiums to accomodate big game crowds. HBCU's in Mississippi don't have that luxury or option.

The above information HAS to be taken into consideration and must be added to the discussion regarding the size of JSU's on campus stadium.

If the aforementioned schools didn't have those larger stadiums nearby, the same fans of those schools would be yelling and screaming that they needed a larger stadium.

^

I see someone has learned the art of spin from Hillary Clinton... LOL!!!

Your original statement didn't say anything about Memorial being the best venue for HBCU's in Mississippi. You stated that it was - and I quote "the best home stadium in all of HBCU football." Now you put this spin on your statement in an attempt to justify it. And, even in your attempt to spin it you still make false claims... i.e. "all of the D1-AA HBCU's play in Memorial." I will assume that you mean all HBCU's in Mississippi. Because I'm sure there are several HBCU's that have never stepped foot in Memorial.

Then you talk about optional sites that other schools can fall back on as if those stadiums are their home fields. When the schools you named play in those optional stadiums they are playing in classic games. In no shape, form or fashion do any of those schools consider those loacations home stadiums or even stadiums they can fall back on. Well, with the exception of one... TSU's home stadium is LP Field, which it shares with the TN Titans. It's not a stadium we fall back on. Thus the reason I say that Memorial isn't the best "home" stadium in all of HBCU football.

Howard fans when was the last time you guys used RFK as an optional game site? This guy seems to think you guys have some agreement or easy access to RFK as a back-up stadium. I guess when RFK is too small Howard uses FedEx Field as a back-up......

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Originally posted by TSU Tiger Fan:

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Originally posted by JayRob:

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Originally posted by TSU Tiger Fan:

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Originally posted by JayRob:...

First of all, Memorial Stadium is perhaps the best home stadium in all of HBCU football.
The Saints played there two/three years ago. The stadium recently had a multi-million dollar facelift, so why is the reporter even talking about codes to begin with? Hmmm.

^
I'm thinking LP Field is "perhaps" the best home stadium in all of HBCU football.

However, it is not the best home environment among HBCU's. It's too big for TSU and from all counts Memorial is too big for JSU.

Dude, it's quite obvious that YOU haven't done your homework. First of all, all of the D-1AA HBCU's play in Memorial, especially when there's a huge crowd expected.

Memorial is the ONLY HBCU venue in the ENTIRE state of Mississippi that can hold more than 25,000 fans.

For the SU/Grambling game, they have the Superdome, in Louisiana. For the FAMU/BCU game, they have the nearby stadium in Orlando. For the Bama State/Bama A&M Magic City Classic, they have Legion Field in Birmingham to fall back on. For Howard, they have RFK to fall back on. For Tennessee State, they have the Liberty Bowl or the Titan's Stadium as an option.

HBCU schools in Mississippi have NO OTHER VENUE OTHER THAN MEMORIAL. We certainly wouldn't want to play games on Ole Miss's campus, nor any other predominantly White school.

If JSU gets a 25,000 seat stadium, it would mean that games against Alcorn, Southern, Grambling and Valley would only result in around 25,000 people in total attendance, half of the normal averaged crowd.

Now if we had a nearby stadium in Mississippi that could accomodate those crowds above 25,000 fans, we perhaps would settle for a 30-35,000 seat stadium, but we don't. THAT'S THE BOTTOM LINE, we don't.

The aforementioned schools TAKE FOR GRANTED that they have nearby stadiums to accomodate big game crowds. HBCU's in Mississippi don't have that luxury or option.

The above information HAS to be taken into consideration and must be added to the discussion regarding the size of JSU's on campus stadium.

If the aforementioned schools didn't have those larger stadiums nearby, the same fans of those schools would be yelling and screaming that they needed a larger stadium.

^

I see someone has learned the art of spin from Hillary Clinton... LOL!!!

Your original statement didn't say anything about Memorial being the best venue for HBCU's in Mississippi. You stated that it was - and I quote "the best home stadium in all of HBCU football." Now you put this spin on your statement in an attempt to justify it. And, even in your attempt to spin it you still make false claims... i.e. "all of the D1-AA HBCU's play in Memorial." I will assume that you mean all HBCU's in Mississippi. Because I'm sure there are several HBCU's that have never stepped foot in Memorial.

Then you talk about optional sites that other schools can fall back on as if those stadiums are their home fields. When the schools you named play in those optional stadiums they are playing in classic games. In no shape, form or fashion do any of those schools consider those loacations home stadiums or even stadiums they can fall back on. Well, with the exception of one... TSU's home stadium is LP Field, which it shares with the TN Titans. It's not a stadium we fall back on. Thus the reason I say that Memorial isn't the best "home" stadium in all of HBCU football.

Howard fans when was the last time you guys used RFK as an optional game site? This guy seems to think you guys have some agreement or easy access to RFK as a back-up stadium. I guess when RFK is too small Howard uses FedEx Field as a back-up......

Dude, you sound like a six year old who just failed a first grade test. In all actuality, you did, simply because you have no idea what you're talking about.

When JSU plays Alcorn or SU or even Valley, (when they're good), at it's HOME stadium named Memorial, that atmosphere can't be beat. Your crowd at your home stadium can't come close to comparing to the atmosphere of those games in the boring MVC and you know it.

Just quit lying and accept the facts. It's not for you to worry about any way.
WE GOT THIS AT JSU!! You need to worry about bringing some excitement to that boring conference you're in.