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Originally posted by Decks:
Don't know if it'll happen but App State is already exploring the possibility of D-I Bowl Subdivision.

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Originally posted by oleschoolaggie:
you might be on to somethin' mobear. if app. state wins another championship this year, you'd have to think going d1-a could possibly be on the table…

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Originally posted by B Triple:

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Originally posted by Decks:
Don't know if it'll happen but App State is already exploring the possibility of D-I Bowl Subdivision.

and why not? They would have that entire Western part of North Carolina to themselves as teh lone FBS team in that part of the state. Also remember that they could possibly pull from some parts of Eastern, Tennessee (those who are not Vols fans), West Virginia and the non-Hokie fans in the Southern VA area.

I think the teams that are looking to move up will be the teams that can garner THAT kind of support. Look for Montana and/or North Dakota State to make such a move in the next 10 years themselves.

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Originally posted by oleschoolaggie:
i don't think it will actually happen but i think app state is well positioned to move up if they choose. d1-a conference affiliation might be an issue though. i doubt if they'd go independent for the long term, but conference usa might be an option. i know georgia southern won several championships back in the day as well as youngstown state, but neither of them won 3 in a row. and i think the big difference with app state is name recognition. because of the michigan upset, every college football fan in the country has heard of app state by now and that'll work wonders for recruiting.

if i'm app state, unless the fbs has a playoff, i'd stay pat. timing is key for app state. their program in terms of competitiveness and name recognition is at a peak now but in 5 to 10 years that may not be the case. if they're not able to join a bcs conference, they don't stand to gain a whole lot by going to the fbs level…

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Originally posted by ksmith:

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Originally posted by oleschoolaggie:
i don't think it will actually happen but i think app state is well positioned to move up if they choose. d1-a conference affiliation might be an issue though. i doubt if they'd go independent for the long term, but conference usa might be an option. i know georgia southern won several championships back in the day as well as youngstown state, but neither of them won 3 in a row. and i think the big difference with app state is name recognition. because of the michigan upset, every college football fan in the country has heard of app state by now and that'll work wonders for recruiting.

if i'm app state, unless the fbs has a playoff, i'd stay pat. timing is key for app state. their program in terms of competitiveness and name recognition is at a peak now but in 5 to 10 years that may not be the case. if they're not able to join a bcs conference, they don't stand to gain a whole lot by going to the fbs level…

Tarhells, Wolfpack, Deamon Deacons and Pirates(East Carolina). Apple better stay put.

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Originally posted by ksmith:
I doubt it. In fact Georgia Southern has been where they are right now on several occasions. So has Youngstown State. I think Apple is fine where they are.

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Originally posted by B Triple:

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Originally posted by ksmith:

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Originally posted by oleschoolaggie:
i don't think it will actually happen but i think app state is well positioned to move up if they choose. d1-a conference affiliation might be an issue though. i doubt if they'd go independent for the long term, but conference usa might be an option. i know georgia southern won several championships back in the day as well as youngstown state, but neither of them won 3 in a row. and i think the big difference with app state is name recognition. because of the michigan upset, every college football fan in the country has heard of app state by now and that'll work wonders for recruiting.

if i'm app state, unless the fbs has a playoff, i'd stay pat. timing is key for app state. their program in terms of competitiveness and name recognition is at a peak now but in 5 to 10 years that may not be the case. if they're not able to join a bcs conference, they don't stand to gain a whole lot by going to the fbs level…

Tarhells, Wolfpack, Deamon Deacons and Pirates(East Carolina). Apple better stay put.

ALL of them East of Greensboro, NC

App (with the exception of Western and they've fallen off) is the BIGGEST game in town in Western, NC. They could easily scoop up kids from Charlotte all the way to Eastern Tennessee/Kentucky, Southern VA that want to play 1-A ball but can't get on at V-Tech/UT or South Carolina.

I agree with Cholly too but as far as not having to compete with folks, Western North Carolina is a area RIPE for the picking.

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oleschoolaggie, coming to an hbcu near you...

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Originally posted by oleschoolaggie:

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Originally posted by B Triple:

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Originally posted by ksmith:

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Originally posted by oleschoolaggie:
i don't think it will actually happen but i think app state is well positioned to move up if they choose. d1-a conference affiliation might be an issue though. i doubt if they'd go independent for the long term, but conference usa might be an option. i know georgia southern won several championships back in the day as well as youngstown state, but neither of them won 3 in a row. and i think the big difference with app state is name recognition. because of the michigan upset, every college football fan in the country has heard of app state by now and that'll work wonders for recruiting.

if i'm app state, unless the fbs has a playoff, i'd stay pat. timing is key for app state. their program in terms of competitiveness and name recognition is at a peak now but in 5 to 10 years that may not be the case. if they're not able to join a bcs conference, they don't stand to gain a whole lot by going to the fbs level…

Tarhells, Wolfpack, Deamon Deacons and Pirates(East Carolina). Apple better stay put.

ALL of them East of Greensboro, NC

App (with the exception of Western and they've fallen off) is the BIGGEST game in town in Western, NC. They could easily scoop up kids from Charlotte all the way to Eastern Tennessee/Kentucky, Southern VA that want to play 1-A ball but can't get on at V-Tech/UT or South Carolina.

I agree with Cholly too but as far as not having to compete with folks, Western North Carolina is a area RIPE for the picking.

not only is western north carolina ripe, the entire state is ripe. "none" of the d1-a schools in north carolina have long term credibility in football. believe it or not, east carolina has as much or more "football" tradition than any acc school in north carolina and app state has defeated wake forest a couple of times in the not too distant past…

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Originally posted by The Blue Haze:

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Originally posted by oleschoolaggie:

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Originally posted by B Triple:

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Originally posted by ksmith:

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Originally posted by oleschoolaggie:
i don't think it will actually happen but i think app state is well positioned to move up if they choose. d1-a conference affiliation might be an issue though. i doubt if they'd go independent for the long term, but conference usa might be an option. i know georgia southern won several championships back in the day as well as youngstown state, but neither of them won 3 in a row. and i think the big difference with app state is name recognition. because of the michigan upset, every college football fan in the country has heard of app state by now and that'll work wonders for recruiting.

if i'm app state, unless the fbs has a playoff, i'd stay pat. timing is key for app state. their program in terms of competitiveness and name recognition is at a peak now but in 5 to 10 years that may not be the case. if they're not able to join a bcs conference, they don't stand to gain a whole lot by going to the fbs level…

Tarhells, Wolfpack, Deamon Deacons and Pirates(East Carolina). Apple better stay put.

ALL of them East of Greensboro, NC

App (with the exception of Western and they've fallen off) is the BIGGEST game in town in Western, NC. They could easily scoop up kids from Charlotte all the way to Eastern Tennessee/Kentucky, Southern VA that want to play 1-A ball but can't get on at V-Tech/UT or South Carolina.

I agree with Cholly too but as far as not having to compete with folks, Western North Carolina is a area RIPE for the picking.

not only is western north carolina ripe, the entire state is ripe. "none" of the d1-a schools in north carolina have long term credibility in football. believe it or not, east carolina has as much or more "football" tradition than any acc school in north carolina and app state has defeated wake forest a couple of times in the not too distant past…

However, let's not act like NC is Georgia or Texas. There isn't alot D-1 Caliber football players in the state. App State needs to stay where they are.

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Originally posted by B Triple:

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Originally posted by ksmith:

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Originally posted by oleschoolaggie:
i don't think it will actually happen but i think app state is well positioned to move up if they choose. d1-a conference affiliation might be an issue though. i doubt if they'd go independent for the long term, but conference usa might be an option. i know georgia southern won several championships back in the day as well as youngstown state, but neither of them won 3 in a row. and i think the big difference with app state is name recognition. because of the michigan upset, every college football fan in the country has heard of app state by now and that'll work wonders for recruiting.

if i'm app state, unless the fbs has a playoff, i'd stay pat. timing is key for app state. their program in terms of competitiveness and name recognition is at a peak now but in 5 to 10 years that may not be the case. if they're not able to join a bcs conference, they don't stand to gain a whole lot by going to the fbs level…

Tarhells, Wolfpack, Deamon Deacons and Pirates(East Carolina). Apple better stay put.

ALL of them East of Greensboro, NC

App (with the exception of Western and they've fallen off) is the BIGGEST game in town in Western, NC. They could easily scoop up kids from Charlotte all the way to Eastern Tennessee/Kentucky, Southern VA that want to play 1-A ball but can't get on at V-Tech/UT or South Carolina.

I agree with Cholly too but as far as not having to compete with folks, Western North Carolina is a area RIPE for the picking.

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Originally posted by WSSU gr8ness97:

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Originally posted by B Triple:

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Originally posted by ksmith:

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Originally posted by oleschoolaggie:
i don't think it will actually happen but i think app state is well positioned to move up if they choose. d1-a conference affiliation might be an issue though. i doubt if they'd go independent for the long term, but conference usa might be an option. i know georgia southern won several championships back in the day as well as youngstown state, but neither of them won 3 in a row. and i think the big difference with app state is name recognition. because of the michigan upset, every college football fan in the country has heard of app state by now and that'll work wonders for recruiting.

if i'm app state, unless the fbs has a playoff, i'd stay pat. timing is key for app state. their program in terms of competitiveness and name recognition is at a peak now but in 5 to 10 years that may not be the case. if they're not able to join a bcs conference, they don't stand to gain a whole lot by going to the fbs level…

Tarhells, Wolfpack, Deamon Deacons and Pirates(East Carolina). Apple better stay put.

ALL of them East of Greensboro, NC

App (with the exception of Western and they've fallen off) is the BIGGEST game in town in Western, NC. They could easily scoop up kids from Charlotte all the way to Eastern Tennessee/Kentucky, Southern VA that want to play 1-A ball but can't get on at V-Tech/UT or South Carolina.

I agree with Cholly too but as far as not having to compete with folks, Western North Carolina is a area RIPE for the picking.

Wake Forest is west of Greensboro in Winston-Salem and is just 2 hours away from Boone

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Granted NC isn't Georgia, Florida, Cali, or Texas BUT it does put out alot of quality athletes.

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Originally posted by The Blue Haze:
I said
However, let's not act like NC is Georgia or Texas

you said:

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Granted NC isn't Georgia, Florida, Cali, or Texas BUT it does put out alot of quality athletes.

So I guess the only thing I am incorrect on is the definition of "alot"

I can't find a full breakdown by state, but here are the D1 signings to the ACC and SEC

ajc.com
States with the most SEC/ACC signees in February
Florida: 118
Georgia: 71
Alabama: 43
Virginia: 39
South Carolina: 32
North Carolina: 29
Louisiana: 23
Arkansas: 14
Maryland: 14
New Jersey: 11
California: 10
Pennsylvania: 10
Ohio: 9
Kentucky: 8
Mississippi: 7

That's 29 players to fight for against already established schools with much better facilities and tradition. They need to stay where they are.