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http://www.hbcusportsblog.com/2008/05/five-reasons-wh.html
From all indications, the MEAC Basketball Tournament will stake its claim somewhere in the state of North Carolina beginning in 2009. Whether that city is Raleigh, the location that yielded a 30 percent increase in tournament attendance last year, or Winston-Salem, where Winston-Salem State University hopes to host some of the tournament events, is still up in the air. But no matter the city, North Carolina is the best state to host the MEAC Basketball Tournament. Here's five reasons why. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ hbcusportsblog.com |
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Dayum right... Basketball is king here in NC. I love the idea of the MEAC being in Winston. I would love G-Boro, but the area is too massive. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ J Stowe knows that the present is a gift... He just wants to BE... |
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No argument from here ...
BUT ... Could the potential lack of compettive bids possibly result in a less than respectable financial push for our patronage? All the reasons given are valid - especially the one about the proximity to the other schools - but having only two selections doesn't afford us too many options to consider, and could set us up for being intentionally lowballed simply because we don't show having many alternatives. Although still somewhat of an advocate for rotating it among interested MEAC school cities - as well as considering Orlando (once they build their new barn for the Orlando "Erratic") - keeping it in NC ain't a bad decision ... but let's not just willingly accept just ANY ol' offer being tossed our way. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Just Remember... "One Person's Happy Hour ... Is Another Person's DINNER!" "So ... Don't Always Believe the Hype!"  |
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The Logic is flawed
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _  Jackson State's cut from the SCG |
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Feel free to elaborate.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Just Remember... "One Person's Happy Hour ... Is Another Person's DINNER!" "So ... Don't Always Believe the Hype!" |
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Head Coach |
Because several of the points hinge on support from certain schools AND that's only if those school's have a threat to win. The A&T people do come out BUT, they only come for THEIR TEAM. Folks who watch ACC b-ball AREN'T coming to a MEAC tournament game. Heck, you can play the CAA tournament in DC and I won't attend because I'm not a fan. Those CIAA folks aren't going to spend the  to attend the MEAC tournament. If that was the case it still be in VA or Raleigh. Granted data has shown its growing BUT, the reasonings to hold it at certain locations don't add up._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Jackson State's cut from the SCG |
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Head Coach |
keeping the tournament in north carolina solely because of WSSU, NCA&T and NCCU support is a bad move. the tournament should be in the best place for the conference. You cannot tell me NCCU will be a better draw in their hometown than howard could (in dc), or FAMU could (in florida) or even morgan coppin and UMES could (in maryland).
the tournament should be in the best place for the tournament FOR THE MEAC CONFERENCE!!! if we sway away from that we set our ceiling very low and will not be anything more than a smalltime tournament atmosphere. true the tournament needs to grow some before we get into bigger stages, but let's now wallow in the middle of nowhere to attract just the locals... my two cents... _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _  |
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The point in the argument is that collectively A&T, WSSU and NCCU could draw large numbers of North Carolinians to the tournament. |
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Well, NCCU isn't officially in the MEAC yet, and WSSU isn't eligible for the MEAC tournament for what, at least another year? So that argument is flawed. Put it this way - which scenario would draw more people in 2009 (and 2010, b/c since NCCU isn't in the MEAC yet, they won't be eligible in 2010). 1) Have the tournament in Norfolk where you have Hampton and NSU there withint 1/2 hour (2 of the top 3 teams last year in the standings, and historically pretty good) or 2) Have it in WSSU, where there are no MEAC-eligible teams and NCAT is your closest school, 30-45 mins. away and NCCU isn't even a MEAC member? Am I missing something? I know people say not to bast the location off proximity to teams, but in Norfolk you've got a fairly central location for all the teams except FLA schools (who don't seem to bring many people anyway). You have a decent mid-size market with nothing else going on in the area at that time other than minor league hockey. You have a built up dowtown area at the heart of the tournament site. You've got a decent sized venue that won't look bad on TV when half of it isn't filled. AND you've got 2 of your top-drawing schools within half an hour. Am I still missing something? |
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Good Point  |
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Classifying my argument as flawed on the strength of the conference not having NCCU and WSSU doesn't hold much water. Anywhere you have the tournament, its going to be necessary to engage locals, as fan faithful aren't enough to fill one fourth of an arena alone. Without the NC fans at this past MEAC, there would not have been 8,000 in attendance for the men's championship between two Baltimore schools. The MEAC was interested in bringing the tournament to Norfolk, for the same reasons as I believe it should remain in North Carolina. However, I do believe the proliferation of black colleges in the state outweighs that in Virginia or any other state, allows for comfortable and affordable travel for all member school fans, and is the best location to increase attendance and revenues. Remember, there's a reason the MEAC left Richmond in the first place.... _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ hbcusportsblog.com |
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i thought the collective reason that the tournament is that there was no MEAC squad in richmond... reminds me of winston-salem.
i thought the tournament had huge strides in raleigh. if that was an option i'd agree to one more year under the same contract and with the same incentives that it had the past years. if the conference cannot get AT LEAST the same deal, then they need to consider some other locations. moving "up the street" to winston-salem is not even a lateral move. i believe baltimore or norfolk would be better cities for the MEAC tournament. i even believe the idea some florida folk suggested and have the tournament as a "spring break" thing in orlando... but winston salem??? c'mon... this is solely my opinion. SpArTaNz RuLe would rather have the tournament somewhere where i actually WANT to visit...  _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ |
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Every school in the MEAC has a strong alumni/STUDENT presence in the DC/B-more area...especially DC.
and I can promise you that hotel rooms won't be a problem and the nightlife trumps ANY city the MEAC brass can think of. This tournament belongs in DC. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Jackson State's cut from the SCG |
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Can't argue with DC. Although I do think its a few years away. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ J Stowe knows that the present is a gift... He just wants to BE... |
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Head Coach |
I agree, but maybe in a few more years. The tourney's not ready for DC yet._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _  When we wake up in the morning, we have two simple choices. Go back to sleep and dream, or wake up and chase those dreams.  |
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Proliferation of black colleges in the state? If you mean Division I HBCUs, there's A&T, WSSU, NCCU, the latter 2 of which aren't eligible for the MEAC Tournament. Unless you're counting the CIAA schools... then in VA there's Hampton and NSU, both of which are eligible for the tournament. And if you are counting CIAA schools, there's plenty more in VA...not sure that part of your argument 'holds water' either. |
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Dude, there are more HBCU's in NC than in VA. Thats what he was talking about. Just black colleges overall. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ J Stowe knows that the present is a gift... He just wants to BE... |
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thanks's j stowe. i'm not sure which state of virginia outsider is referring to. when i last checked, virginia had 5 hbcu's (3 ciaa) and north carolina has 10 hbcu's (6 ciaa). am i missing something? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ oleschoolaggie, coming to an hbcu near you... |
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Yes. I love my alma mater, but Hampton and Norfolk St. are notorious for non-supportive fans. When we went to the NCAA Tournament FOR THE FIRST TIME in 2001, most alumni didn't even know we were in Division I, let alone the tournament. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Diamonds are forever pal, and so are the Hampton Pirates! WHOOOO! http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j33/soonerfan32/n9618022_3878.jpg |
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