SOMETHING ELSE!

HE REMINDS ME OF "TINY" ARCHIBALD BECAUSE HE'S INDEFENSIBLE 1 ON 1, SCORES, SEES THE FLOOR EXCEPTIONALLY WELL, & GETS THE BALL TO TEAMMATES WHERE THEY CAN DO SOMETHING POSITIVELY WITH IT.

UNLIKE "TINY", HOWEVER, PAUL DEFENDS VERY WELL WITHOUT COMMITTING SENSELESS FOULS WITH QUICK DARTING HANDS.

INJURY FREE, HE'S A HALL OF FAMER

I guess im one of the few who didnt think he was gonna be this good coming out of Wake Forest...

but he has def. shocked me and shown me that he is truly the MVP

Chris Paul is having a helluva season and if he continues on this pace he could go down as one of the best PG's not named Magic or Stockton to play the game. After seeing what he is doing it absolutely pisses me off that people actually thought Steve Nash was worthy of an MVP award. Chris Paul in two years would already eat Steve Nash's lunch!!!!

I do think that Utah's Deron Williams is right there with Paul, but because he plays in that methodical Jerry Sloan offense, he doesn't get as much acclaim as Paul and Nash who run up and down the floor at will.

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Originally posted by HamptonManic:
I guess im one of the few who didnt think he was gonna be this good coming out of Wake Forest...

but he has def. shocked me and shown me that he is truly the MVP

No your not the only one. I spoke with a few people about Chris Paul yesterday and while we thought Chris Paul would be good, we didn't think he would be the 2nd coming.

I thought he would be a good starting point guard with a few all-star games, but not an MVP type player.

I am proud to say that I was wrong. I love watching Chris Paul play.

I actually have been a bigger fan of Deron Williams because of my familiarity with his game due to the fact that he played in the Big Ten.

Paul and Williams have different games but similar numbers.

Paul: 21.1 PPG 11.6 APG 48.8%FG 36.9%3FG
Williams: 18.8 PPG 10.5 APG 50.7%FR 39.5%3FG

Like I said I had been a bigger Williams fan, largely due to his size and three point shooting, but now I think I have seen the light.

CHRIS PAUL IS THE BEST POINT GUARD IN THE LEAGUE.

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Originally posted by BlueMagic85:

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Originally posted by HamptonManic:
I guess im one of the few who didnt think he was gonna be this good coming out of Wake Forest...

but he has def. shocked me and shown me that he is truly the MVP

No your not the only one. I spoke with a few people about Chris Paul yesterday and while we thought Chris Paul would be good, we didn't think he would be the 2nd coming.

I thought he would be a good starting point guard with a few all-star games, but not an MVP type player.

I am proud to say that I was wrong. I love watching Chris Paul play.

I actually have been a bigger fan of Deron Williams because of my familiarity with his game due to the fact that he played in the Big Ten.

Paul and Williams have different games but similar numbers.

Paul: 21.1 PPG 11.6 APG 48.8%FG 36.9%3FG
Williams: 18.8 PPG 10.5 APG 50.7%FR 39.5%3FG

Like I said I had been a bigger Williams fan, largely due to his size and three point shooting, but now I think I have seen the light.

CHRIS PAUL IS THE BEST POINT GUARD IN THE LEAGUE.

The fact that their numbers are almost identical is eye opening. It really is.

I still think that Paul plays for the man who should be the coach of the year. Byron Scott. People are saying it's Doc Rivers, but who has more talent and whose in the tougher conference?

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Originally posted by hulaw94:

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Originally posted by BlueMagic85:

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Originally posted by HamptonManic:
I guess im one of the few who didnt think he was gonna be this good coming out of Wake Forest...

but he has def. shocked me and shown me that he is truly the MVP

No your not the only one. I spoke with a few people about Chris Paul yesterday and while we thought Chris Paul would be good, we didn't think he would be the 2nd coming.

I thought he would be a good starting point guard with a few all-star games, but not an MVP type player.

I am proud to say that I was wrong. I love watching Chris Paul play.

I actually have been a bigger fan of Deron Williams because of my familiarity with his game due to the fact that he played in the Big Ten.

Paul and Williams have different games but similar numbers.

Paul: 21.1 PPG 11.6 APG 48.8%FG 36.9%3FG
Williams: 18.8 PPG 10.5 APG 50.7%FR 39.5%3FG

Like I said I had been a bigger Williams fan, largely due to his size and three point shooting, but now I think I have seen the light.

CHRIS PAUL IS THE BEST POINT GUARD IN THE LEAGUE.

I still think that Paul plays for the man who should be the coach of the year. Byron Scott. People are saying it's Doc Rivers, but who has more talent and whose in the tougher conference?

Excuse me, but the Celtics went 25-5 against the West including a sweep of the Lakers. So, the conference affilation does not matter.

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I do think that Utah's Deron Williams is right there with Paul

yessirree!!!!

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The second coming of what? Puleeeezzz folks. smh.. This reminds me of Steve Nash's season. Folks tend to overrate point guard play with the player being valuable and fail to connect the dots with the offense and style of play. I don't think Paul is anymore of an MVP than Nash was. You rarely saw point guards getting MVP's in old days.
Also, I don't see the burst of speed to put him in a Archibald category. I don't see the great ball handling or dazzling passes of old point guard greats. His passes are fundamental and simple. His play is almost effortless in the half court set. I think the Hornets spread the floor so nicely and have a compliment of players playing at a high level. That's why Byron Scott is the real MVP.

The Hornets have two All Stars and the Coach of the Year on that team. Paul's season is a team effort and should be put in perspective.
{See Steve Nash}

MVP.......Kobe Bryant. No All Stars...No big men for half the season. Team finishes ahead of New Orleans..Chris Paul's team. I really don't know why we're still delaying things.

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Chris Paul is having a helluva season and if he continues on this pace he could go down as one of the best PG's not named Magic or Stockton to play the game. After seeing what he is doing it absolutely pisses me off that people actually thought Steve Nash was worthy of an MVP award.

Huh? If you think Paul is an MVP then Nash was your guy too.

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The second coming of what? Puleeeezzz folks. smh.. This reminds me of Steve Nash's season. Folks tend to overrate point guard play with the player being valuable and fail to connect the dots with the offense and style of play. I don't think Paul is anymore of an MVP than Nash was. You rarely saw point guards getting MVP's in old days.
Also, I don't see the burst of speed to put him in a Archibald category. I don't see the great ball handling or dazzling passes of old point guard greats. His passes are fundamental and simple. His play is almost effortless in the half court set. I think the Hornets spread the floor so nicely and have a compliment of players playing at a high level. That's why Byron Scott is the real MVP.

The Hornets have two All Stars and the Coach of the Year on that team. Paul's season is a team effort and should be put in perspective.
{See Steve Nash}

MVP.......Kobe Bryant. No All Stars...No big men for half the season. Team finishes ahead of New Orleans..Chris Paul's team. I really don't know why we're still delaying things.

1. Kobe does have an All-Star caliber player on his team in Pau Gasol. Plus, their coach has won nine NBA championships. Six were as head coach. Two of them were against Bryon Scott.

2. Chris Paul turned Tyson Chandler into a solid player. This was a guy in Chicago who could do nothing. And he was playing alongside Kirk Hinrich taken No. 4 overall in the 2003 NBA draft and played on the USA Olympic team.

Chandler goes to N.O. with Paul and blows up. Same with David West. A good player, but turned into a solid player with a full season playing with Paul.

Now I am not saying Chris Paul should win the MVP, but you have to consider that no one really expected the Hornets to even make the playoffs this year.

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1. Kobe does have an All-Star caliber player on his team in Pau Gasol. Plus, their coach has won nine NBA championships. Six were as head coach. Two of them were against Bryon Scott.

Phil has 9 as a coach. 6 w/ Bulls, 3 w/Lakers.

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Also, I don't see the burst of speed to put him in a Archibald category. I don't see the great ball handling or dazzling passes of old point guard greats.

You's a dayum lie ksmith...

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1. Kobe does have an All-Star caliber player on his team in Pau Gasol. Plus, their coach has won nine NBA championships. Six were as head coach. Two of them were against Bryon Scott.

Phil has 9 as a coach. 6 w/ Bulls, 3 w/Lakers.

Damn, you right.

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Originally posted by ksmith:
Also, I don't see the burst of speed to put him in a Archibald category. I don't see the great ball handling or dazzling passes of old point guard greats.

You's a dayum lie ksmith...

A.I...Tiny Nate...Gus Johnson...Kevin Johnson...man there have been many "blurs" in the NBA and I wouldn't say Chris Paul was one of them. Heck...White Chocolate and Pistol Pete were more dazzling ball handlers. But, again....what does that prove? I'm not putting Paul down but, I just don't think his an individual super talent. I think his success is due in part to the team's success.

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Chris Paul is having a helluva season and if he continues on this pace he could go down as one of the best PG's not named Magic or Stockton to play the game. After seeing what he is doing it absolutely pisses me off that people actually thought Steve Nash was worthy of an MVP award.

Huh? If you think Paul is an MVP then Nash was your guy too.

Where in my post did you see the words or anything that implied, "I THINK CHRIS PAUL IS THIS YEAR'S MVP????"

Dang man I love Kobe too, but it's OK to think other people are good as well!

What you're missing is that Chris Paul, and Deron Williams for that matter, are doing what it took Steve Nash 10 YEARS OF NBA PLAY TO DO!!! That stat alone puts him ahead of the curve and as I stated before, if he continues on the pace he is playning on, he'll go down as one of the best to play the position.

I think he's a worthy MVP CANDIDATE but don't think he should win because Tyson Chandler, David West, and Peja Stojakovic played over 90% of the Hornets' regular season games, while Kobe dealt with injuries to his teammates and to himself.

There's a difference in being a candidate and thinking he should've won. Hell I thought Nash should've been a candidate those years, just don't think he was the MVP.

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1. Kobe does have an All-Star caliber player on his team in Pau Gasol. Plus, their coach has won nine NBA championships. Six were as head coach. Two of them were against Bryon Scott.

Pau never made it. Think about the traffic at the small forward/center spot in the West. Potential and caliber is one thing actually making it is another. Again...Gasol came late AND hurt ankle missing 10 critical end of the season pressure games.

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2. Chris Paul turned Tyson Chandler into a solid player. This was a guy in Chicago who could do nothing. And he was playing alongside Kirk Hinrich taken No. 4 overall in the 2003 NBA draft and played on the USA Olympic team.

Uhh...maybe that's why Chicago ain't in the playoff picture anymore. I mean folks were looking forward to seeing the "Baby Bulls". He had the Bulls rolling. He swept Shaq in Miami!! Even had Kobe wanting to play in Chicago.

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Chandler goes to N.O. with Paul and blows up. Same with David West. A good player, but turned into a solid player with a full season playing with Paul.

Now I am not saying Chris Paul should win the MVP, but you have to consider that no one really expected the Hornets to even make the playoffs this year.

I did. They should have made it last year. They were one of the hottest team at season's end last year. Chandler started blowing up in Chicago and Byron Scott and company gave him a few more pumps. Player like West and Chandler are point guard dreams. West is a part of a dying breed. He can turn around and spot up on jump shots around the free throw line and Chandler is a "slim" 7 footer who can run the floor. These two players add four or five extra assist per game to Paul's game. All you have to do is throw it to West...pop....assist. Tyson...just throw it up there. What does Paul have to do with Tyson getting wide open easy alley hoops? Interesting debate but, you're really underestimating Scott's impact. Hmmmmmmm....come to think about it. Jason Kidd's name was being toss around as the greatest ever during his association with Byron Scott also. Remember. Hmmmmmmmmm

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Dang man I love Kobe too, but it's OK to think other people are good as well!

Calm down dude. Your post implied that Paul should be MVP. You suggested that if Nash got it how can Paul NOT get it. At least that's how I read your post. I didn't offend you or chop your head off. Geezzz.

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Hmmmmmmm....come to think about it. Jason Kidd's name was being toss around as the greatest ever during his association with Byron Scott also. Remember. Hmmmmmmmmm

Dayum good point ksmith.
I still believe this guy is COMPLETELY diff from J. Kidd.

I mean the FIRST, I repeat FIRST player to start out the playoffs averaging 30 pts, 10 assists and 3 Steals. That means this dude is ready for ANYONE in the Western or Eastern Conference. Kidd never put up these type numbers.

And also the dude is doing this in his FIRST, and I repeat, FIRST NBA Playoffs. I agree with Stephen A. Smith when he calls him Baby Isaiah.

He is the Second Coming......of Isaiah.

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.I...Tiny Nate...Gus Johnson...Kevin Johnson...man there have been many "blurs" in the NBA

GUS JOHNSON?

UNLESS HE REINCARNATED AS KEVIN JOHNSON, GUS WAS POWER FORWARD FOR THE BULLETS ALONGSIDE UNSELD, IN ADDITION TO BEING THE 1ST PLAYER TO BRING DOWN A BACK BOARD

Gus Johnson was a point guard with the Seatlle Supersonics. We used to call them "Supersonics". Zeek is another quick guard but, I wouldn't call him a point guard. I don't think Paul is on Isiah's level. Zeek was an all around guard like Kobe and Mike. More so a two guard who could play point. Paul a Baby Isiah? Hmmmmmmmm I don't think so. IMHO.

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I mean the FIRST, I repeat FIRST player to start out the playoffs averaging 30 pts, 10 assists and 3 Steals. That means this dude is ready for ANYONE in the Western or Eastern Conference. Kidd never put up these type numbers.

Uh...what about Steve Nash? He WAS doing the same schitt two years ago.
It wasn't his first playoff but, what difference does that make if your offense allows you to play a certain style. What difference does it make about first playoffs? It's not like he's a rookie. That's just some media jibber jabber. The offense and team are what they are. Whether it's the first round of the playoffs or the first week after the All Star break.

I think the Paul talk is about trying to be consistent. They did take a tiny bit of heat over those Steve Nash back to back making other better bullschitt!!! I don't see how this thing became a two man race. If you ask me it was between Kobe, LeBron and maybe...maybe K.G.[missed too many games IMHO]

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