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Originally posted by hampton blueblood:

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Originally posted by B Triple:
I'm sorry who said anything about firing the man?

The question was what has he done? That's a compliment to Hampton because the program has achieved so much in the last 10 years. It's no longer good enough to win 17 games a season.

Alot of Pirates folks are talking about how well the program is progressing. To be honest its not anybody today then when Collins was there.

Once again Collins wasn't getting wins on the court and he wasn't getting wins off the court. Academically we are still suffering from his management of the program. He sold us down the river to keep players on the floor who didn't produce. He has turned that around and gotten this ship going in the right direction. Players are improving in the classroom and the program as a whole has taken steps forward. So much so that the NCAA gave us back a scholarship that we hasd lost under Collins.

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Originally posted by HU WaterBoi08:
Who says that all recruits have to be hyped? Mike and Matt were hyped and both averaged 8pts this year. Adam Morrison was the national player of the year 2 years ago and only one school in the whole country recruited him. So for all your hype it means nothing. And im sure he lucked into all the talent he has down in WSSU, a team that BEAT UMES and took us toe to toe each game we played them?

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O Hampton, we never can make thee a song Except as our lives do the singing,In service that will thy great spirit prolong, And send it through centuries ringing!

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Originally posted by Baby Boy:

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Originally posted by HU WaterBoi08:
Who says that all recruits have to be hyped? Mike and Matt were hyped and both averaged 8pts this year. Adam Morrison was the national player of the year 2 years ago and only one school in the whole country recruited him. So for all your hype it means nothing. And im sure he lucked into all the talent he has down in WSSU, a team that BEAT UMES and took us toe to toe each game we played them?

Don't have a clue do you?

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Originally posted by HU WaterBoi08:

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Originally posted by Baby Boy:

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Originally posted by HU WaterBoi08:
Who says that all recruits have to be hyped? Mike and Matt were hyped and both averaged 8pts this year. Adam Morrison was the national player of the year 2 years ago and only one school in the whole country recruited him. So for all your hype it means nothing. And im sure he lucked into all the talent he has down in WSSU, a team that BEAT UMES and took us toe to toe each game we played them?

Don't have a clue do you?

What r u talkin about.?.HBB said that collins lucked out with those guys and they werent hyped recruits. Was Stephen curry from davidson hyped?? He was so overlooked he decided to show the entire country he could play despite the fact the ACC ignored him completely. Show me where hype has any meaning full relation to performance on the floor. For all the hype Matt and Mike got coming into Hampton this year they both averaged 7.7pts a game. That's a statistical fact. Don't be surprised if NUMBER 1 isn't back next year... Never once have i said Coach Nick is a bad coach, i just want all of you collins haters to get off his back and look at his body of work. Granted he had academic issues, and lost two scholarships, he also didnt have the full support of the school behind him.

And some of yall are going overboard with this academic issue. Do you honestly think he would have gotten another job at the D-I level if the academic levels at Hampton were as bad as your making them out to be? It would be easy for the team GPA's to increase coach nicks first 2years, considering half to 2/3 of Collins players didnt return and you replace those 6 to 7 guys with freshman, 3 or 4 coming from prep schools who have an easier course load, having been at Pre-college(summer school)takin 2 or 3 classes and you introduce a walk on in Kevin Sumner who was already on a Presidential Scholarship since he had been at Hampton since 2003 and 3 of those returning players in Woodard, West and Easterling who were already on the HU Athlete 3.0 club.
And dont forget in the coach nick era we've been blown out by large margins too...UMBC, Holy Cross at home, Maryland in his first game..granted ull say that was his first game..blah blah...remember Coach Joyner coached 80% percent of this last matchup and this Maryland team wasnt as good as last years. no DJ strawberry meant no NCAA tourney ..
So please lets move on and get off Collins back and let Coach Nick do his own thing.

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O Hampton, we never can make thee a song Except as our lives do the singing,In service that will thy great spirit prolong, And send it through centuries ringing!

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Originally posted by Baby Boy:

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Originally posted by HU WaterBoi08:

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Originally posted by Baby Boy:

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Originally posted by HU WaterBoi08:
Who says that all recruits have to be hyped? Mike and Matt were hyped and both averaged 8pts this year. Adam Morrison was the national player of the year 2 years ago and only one school in the whole country recruited him. So for all your hype it means nothing. And im sure he lucked into all the talent he has down in WSSU, a team that BEAT UMES and took us toe to toe each game we played them?

Don't have a clue do you?

What r u talkin about.?.HBB said that collins lucked out with those guys and they werent hyped recruits. Was Stephen curry from davidson hyped?? He was so overlooked he decided to show the entire country he could play despite the fact the ACC ignored him completely. Show me where hype has any meaning full relation to performance on the floor. For all the hype Matt and Mike got coming into Hampton this year they both averaged 7.7pts a game. That's a statistical fact. Don't be surprised if NUMBER 1 isn't back next year... Never once have i said Coach Nick is a bad coach, i just want all of you collins haters to get off his back and look at his body of work. Granted he had academic issues, and lost two scholarships, he also didnt have the full support of the school behind him.

And some of yall are going overboard with this academic issue. Do you honestly think he would have gotten another job at the D-I level if the academic levels at Hampton were as bad as your making them out to be? It would be easy for the team GPA's to increase coach nicks first 2years, considering half to 2/3 of Collins players didnt return and you replace those 6 to 7 guys with freshman, 3 or 4 coming from prep schools who have an easier course load, having been at Pre-college(summer school)takin 2 or 3 classes and you introduce a walk on in Kevin Sumner who was already on a Presidential Scholarship since he had been at Hampton since 2003 and 3 of those returning players in Woodard, West and Easterling who were already on the HU Athlete 3.0 club.
And dont forget in the coach nick era we've been blown out by large margins too...UMBC, Holy Cross at home, Maryland in his first game..granted ull say that was his first game..blah blah...remember Coach Joyner coached 80% percent of this last matchup and this Maryland team wasnt as good as last years. no DJ strawberry meant no NCAA tourney ..
So please lets move on and get off Collins back and let Coach Nick do his own thing.

Keep holding Bobby's nutz Waterboi, we understand.....

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Originally posted by joeneek:

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Originally posted by BlueMagic85:
Don't ever tell me I don't know my team. Until you have all of their cell phone numbers in your phone don't speak to me.

Wow. If you have them, I guess that really puts the "fag" er, um, "fan" in fanatic.

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Originally posted by BlueMagic85:

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Originally posted by joeneek:

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Originally posted by BlueMagic85:
Don't ever tell me I don't know my team. Until you have all of their cell phone numbers in your phone don't speak to me.

Wow. If you have them, I guess that really puts the "fag" er, um, "fan" in fanatic.

Negro you lucky I don't know you...

Let me make it very clear to you small minded individual, cause I am sure you are the number one crab in the barrel pulling those around you down.

I am a journalist and radio personality that means I have had certain relationship with individuals and certain access to those individuals.

Yes I have players numbers in my cell phone. I have coaches present and old as well. I even have ESPN anchors and NFL scouts in my phone.

Grow the F up and get a clue.

If not your welcome to let me know who you are and we can handle this privately.

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Originally posted by DrBlackbeard:

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Give Jackson the talent that Nickelberry has and he dominates teh MEAC.

Again, you're kidding, right? Right!

I saw Jackson's coaching skills at work on two occasions this season in "The Burr." And he snatched defeat out of the mouth of victory on both occasions.

In one of the games, the Bison had a two-point lead and THE BALL with 0:4 seconds--repeat 0:4 seconds--left in the game...and the game in the bag! But to everyone's amazement and surprise, Jackson called a time out (thus stopping the clock and giving the opposing team a chance to re-set their defense). When play resumed, an opposing player stole the in-bound pass, was fouled, and scored two free throws to win the game, thanks to coach's brillant "strategy."
It was WSSU's Bobby Collins to whom Jackson gave that victory!

The other game that I witnessed revealed the same level of "last minute" coaching "acumen."

Lol! Not "sensitive" at all; I have no reason to be. I simply tell it I like I see it. I just find it very odd when people put themselves out there as being an "expert" about somebody else's program when there is no evidence that their so-called expertise is having any positive impact on their own program.

You know, it's like somebody who sets out to attend Sunday morning services with his own redacted and jacked up version of the holy book in hand, but always chooses the wrong church and sits in the wrong pew! ... and then gets all huffy when he gets checked by the preacher for trying to [/b]pontificate[/b]...and the choir says...AMEN!

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Originally posted by hampton blueblood:
Really blue Magic, really Waterboi? Let the persoanl call outs and attacks roll off your back. It's not that serious it is a debate and if you can't stick to conjecture and opinions then let it go. Both of you are taking this too personal. If you get this upset now online how will you handle it when someone attacks you personally? so the name calling is beneath both of you and you know it. Represent the way I know the two of you can. Don't stoop to the levels you are going. We R Hamptonians! And as stated before this is a discussion for the Ship!

That being said HU Waterboi Collins was a nice guy but the program was falling down around him. He was bringing players in who he told them they didn;t have to go to class. He was constantly covering for players which got us in the situation we find ourselves now. Battling for scholarships we should have never lost. WSSU hired him because he was at HU when we transitioned to Division I. Trust me, they need to watch their players academics. Collins players were idiots. Simply put. Outside of West and Woodard, granger and Devin Green the rest of them were dumb as bricks and I shouldn't insult bricks like that. At least bricks can amount too something. He killed this program and Coach Nick is reviving it. Slowly but the revival has begun. Winning those Out of conference games are big and they get attention. The kind a program needs not like the kind we were getting with Coach Collins. The proof is in the pudding.

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Originally posted by BlueMagic85:

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Originally posted by joeneek:

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Originally posted by BlueMagic85:
Don't ever tell me I don't know my team. Until you have all of their cell phone numbers in your phone don't speak to me.

Wow. If you have them, I guess that really puts the "fag" er, um, "fan" in fanatic.

Negro you lucky I don't know you...

Let me make it very clear to you small minded individual, cause I am sure you are the number one crab in the barrel pulling those around you down.

I am a journalist and radio personality that means I have had certain relationship with individuals and certain access to those individuals.

Yes I have players numbers in my cell phone. I have coaches present and old as well. I even have ESPN anchors and NFL scouts in my phone.

Grow the F up and get a clue.

If not your welcome to let me know who you are and we can handle this privately.

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Originally posted by joeneek:

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Originally posted by BlueMagic85:

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Originally posted by joeneek:

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Originally posted by BlueMagic85:
Don't ever tell me I don't know my team. Until you have all of their cell phone numbers in your phone don't speak to me.

Wow. If you have them, I guess that really puts the "fag" er, um, "fan" in fanatic.

Negro you lucky I don't know you...

Let me make it very clear to you small minded individual, cause I am sure you are the number one crab in the barrel pulling those around you down.

I am a journalist and radio personality that means I have had certain relationship with individuals and certain access to those individuals.

Yes I have players numbers in my cell phone. I have coaches present and old as well. I even have ESPN anchors and NFL scouts in my phone.

Grow the F up and get a clue.

If not your welcome to let me know who you are and we can handle this privately.

Man, I just saw this gump sh!t.
Since you are new here, I'll clean up my initial post and just let it go. You'd really be better served to know who you are dealing with before making silly threats- little lady.