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Interesting observation.
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The kind Howard could only hope and pray for. Increase in wins in and out of conference, increase in GPA for team, increased attendance at games, national recognition. Not that Howard understands that when it comes to athletics! _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ No sense in fighting it. Hampton is better and you all know it that's why you all are always trying to tear us down. |
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co-sign! The good thing is that Coach recognizes that communication is his biggest area of improvement. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ There is always next year. |
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I was sitting around 6 rows behind the Hampton bench at the UMBC game and all I could say was Wow. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Time can be your best friend or worst enemy. |
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Name the last Pirate NBA player. Howard was doing it while you was getting ran off the court by Norfolk State in the CIAA sir. We've beaten teams out of conference too  Increase of GPA? And you STILL behind us in MEAC All-Academic team members. National Recognition? How long are you going to live off of 2001? But that's neither here NOR there, point is what has Nickleberry done to back up the claim of "progress" that you made. COLLINS won the MEAC. Yeah you got a guy who's a great recruiter BUT, how long are you going to be satisfied with doing ok and not getting over the hump? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _  Jackson State's cut from the SCG |
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The last time Howard won anything was... we'll leave it at that! Devin Green was a NBA player
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LOL! Not only that, but speaking specifically of progress in basketball, did you ever wonder what’s on that little, rolled up piece of paper that Gil Jackson carries around and grasps ever so tightly at every game…but never unfurls to look at? I dunno...his "progress"  report, maybe?   Some people should just leave some things alone!  _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _  Hampton U...Dreaming no small dreams...and making them real...GO PIRATES! Where there is no vision there is no hope. George Washington Carver |
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Originally posted by Oldspot:
LMAO! That's bated breath, Oldspot, ba-ted breath! How you gonna "bait" a breath??? Similarly, you remind me of what that same old hunter said about his other, more dog: "He can bark out sounds dat he 'hear'd' other animals make, but he don' hab a f- - - - - - - clue wot dem sounds mean!" Click here... and learn something:  http://www.answers.com/bated%20breath Kids, Even Old Ones, Say the Darndest Things...all loud and WRONG!!  This message has been edited. Last edited by: DrBlackbeard, _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Hampton U...Dreaming no small dreams...and making them real...GO PIRATES! Where there is no vision there is no hope. George Washington Carver |
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he wasn't drafted. Holding Kobe Bryant's condoms isn't much of a career. Sorry if the truth about Nickelberry has been exposed. Yeah he beat Howard, Bobby Collins beat Howard, Merfield beat Howard. But both of them actually WON the MEAC tournament. If the progress of your program is measure by how many times you beat Howard then, has it REALLY progress? So tell me Pirates where was the progress if your goal is the win the MEAC? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Jackson State's cut from the SCG |
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Not to get into this back & forth too much but.... Nickelberry has been HC at Hampton for two years, 1----2. Thats it. In those TWO seasons, things HAVE improved. Merfeld had his era but he is gone, Collins had an era and lucked up & won the MEAC (which we have proven can be won by any 5-7th placed team) but got creamed most of the year. Nickelberry is brand new to Hampton, and new to head coaching. Now, in two MORE years from now, nothing has progressed much, then we have some reason for concern.
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LOL! You are kidding, right? There are measures and there are non-measures. You just answered your own question!
You're right! Nickelberry has not yet won the MEAC. Therefore, you might say "no progress" if measured in those terms. But he did post a winning record (11-5, 18-12) this past season, his second @ Hampton. Like ProudPirate said, if nothing has progressed much beyond the current state of affairs in two MORE years from now, then we will have some reason for concern. He's still learning. And of course, a goal is ALWAYS to win the MEAC...and more! My thing is this: Give a young, first-time head coach a chance to prove himself. After all, he has the resources. The onus is on him to capital and use them to his advantage. But trust! Speaking of chances, he would be long gone if his "progress report" looked anything like the one posted by Bison coach Jackson, who currently sports a 14-38 (MEAC) and 24-78 (overall) record over three years!... Gone! |
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You're right about my spelling. It's terrible. However, I am right about Nickleberry. He has recruited good talent. But, he's managed to F it up. Next year will be more of the same for him and the HIU program-underachievement with good talent. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ I owe Morgan a debt I can never fully repay. |
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LOL!! Don't try to play it off as "terrible spelling." It's much deeper than that! At least you learned something today...maybe! BTW: Todd's Tackle Shop is running a sale on fishing "bate" today! I'm jes' messin' wit ya, Oldspot! ...and git'in my laugh on for today! This message has been edited. Last edited by: DrBlackbeard, _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Hampton U...Dreaming no small dreams...and making them real...GO PIRATES! Where there is no vision there is no hope. George Washington Carver |
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Just like your opinion about the importance of your program you are wrong. Nickelberry got to a program that was ALREADY off and running. He didn't REBUILD Hampton from the Ashes. Jackson came to a program that lost 17 straight games to end the season and only won twice in the conference. Give Jackson the talent that Nickelberry has and he dominates teh MEAC. Give the guy at NSU the talent that Nickelberry has, he dominates the MEAC, give Bozeman that talent and he dominates the MEAC. Granted I don't want to get into a bash Hampton tirade and I've defended Hampton many times (a fact you sensitive pirates tend to miss out on) BUT, facts are facts. Bringing up Howard's lack of success doesn't bother me because we haven't won. Nickelberry took over a team coming OFF a MEAC title. Either Collins overachieved with a inferior team OR he underachieved with a great team that turned it on. Nickelberry with MORE talent has YET to even reach a MEAC title game. But keep on masking your underachieving by pointing out how bad Howard is. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Jackson State's cut from the SCG |
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bingo, blackbeard! you're absolutely correct as far as giving a first time head coach adequate opportunity to establish his program. folks don't understand that you can't fire coaches every two years, otherwise no other quality coaches would want the job. besides, when any school (including mine) hire's a head coach in any sport that's never been a college head coach before, the school has to accept responsibility for any growing pains that comes their way. don't blame the coach, he told you in the interview that he's never been a college head coach before. and trust me, there's a tremendous difference between being a head coach vs. an assistant coach. neither mike krzyzewski, nor dean smith would have become hall of fame coaches at duke and unc, respectively had they been judged by their first two years as head coach. they both would have been fired… _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ oleschoolaggie, coming to an hbcu near you... |
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I'm sorry who said anything about firing the man?
The question was what has he done? That's a compliment to Hampton because the program has achieved so much in the last 10 years. It's no longer good enough to win 17 games a season. Alot of Pirates folks are talking about how well the program is progressing. To be honest its not any further today then when Collins was there. This message has been edited. Last edited by: B Triple, _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Jackson State's cut from the SCG |
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for one yall have more varsity sports than we do.... _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ O Hampton, we never can make thee a song Except as our lives do the singing,In service that will thy great spirit prolong, And send it through centuries ringing!  |
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Collins had the program in an academic mud hole.....Coach Nick brought in players that worked hard on an off the court... _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ O Hampton, we never can make thee a song Except as our lives do the singing,In service that will thy great spirit prolong, And send it through centuries ringing! |
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Once again Collins wasn't getting wins on the court and he wasn't getting wins off the court. Academically we are still suffering from his management of the program. He sold us down the river to keep players on the floor who didn't produce. He has turned that around and gotten this ship going in the right direction. Players are improving in the classroom and the program as a whole has taken steps forward. So much so that the NCAA gave us back a scholarship that we hasd lost under Collins. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ No sense in fighting it. Hampton is better and you all know it that's why you all are always trying to tear us down. |
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Again, you're kidding, right? Right! I saw Jackson's coaching skills at work on two occasions this season in "The Burr." And he snatched defeat out of the mouth of victory on both occasions. In one of the games, the Bison had a two-point lead and THE BALL with 0:4 seconds--repeat 0:4 seconds--left in the game...and the game in the bag! But to everyone's amazement and surprise, Jackson called a time out  (thus stopping the clock and giving the opposing team a chance to re-set their defense). When play resumed, an opposing player stole the in-bound pass, was fouled, and scored two free throws to win the game, thanks to coach's brillant "strategy."It was WSSU's Bobby Collins to whom Jackson gave that victory! The other game that I witnessed revealed the same level of "last minute" coaching "acumen." Lol! Not "sensitive" at all; I have no reason to be. I simply tell it I like I see it. I just find it very odd when people put themselves out there as being an "expert" about somebody else's program when there is no evidence that their so-called expertise is having any positive impact on their own program. You know, it's like somebody who sets out to attend Sunday morning services with his own redacted and jacked up version of the holy book in hand, but always chooses the wrong church and sits in the wrong pew! ... and then gets all huffy when he gets checked by the preacher for trying to [/b]pontificate[/b]...and the choir says...AMEN! This message has been edited. Last edited by: DrBlackbeard, |