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ESPN.com is reporting that Memphis assistant Derek Kellog will be introduced as UMass' new coach on Wednesday, citing a UMass source.

This was a done deal and no brainer for UMass a long time ago. I suppose they had to interview other cats but the job was Kellogg's from the jump, Calipari saw to that with his connects to the school. Good experience for Nick to get the look but please don't think he was seriously considered.

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You don't even know your own team Blue Magic! The 'redshirts' from his second class didn't cut muster with the NCAA clearinghouse, that's why they didn't play. It wasn't strategy on Nick's part, his hands were tied.


I can't believe that you have the nerve to come at me like that!!!

Of all the people on this board OUTSIDER you have the balls to say I don't know my team. I know my team better then you know the palm of your hand.

I know that the players have been prop. 58.

I also know that there was no plan at all to play Morgan this year. So no matter what he was going to sit out this year. Now Molta-Charles the center is a red-shirt and there was no plan to play him this year.

Chris Tolson was the only one that the team wanted and expected to play this year that didn't.

Thank you. Don't ever tell me I don't know my team. Until you have all of their cell phone numbers in your phone don't speak to me.
 
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A finalist, huh? Anyhow, maybe Nickleberry thought that "Hampton magic" would work for him as it did for Merfeld, who at least got bigger bucks--if nothing else--by moving on to Evansville. The big difference: Merfeld punched his ticket by bagging MEAC tournament championships and winning something at the national level.

The jury is still very much out on Nickleberry, who, in interviewing for the UMASS opening, may have wanted or expected no more than to get his name out there for future reference, maybe.

I can't be mad at'em for that, because he apparently understands better than many that you should always "Let your reach exceed your grasp, or what’s a heaven for?"

Just think of all the millions of people out there who spend their entire life simply marching in place...the same place they started from ... afraid or incapable of reaching, on the one hand, and, consequently, never grasping with the other.

Rhetorical question: Does your reach exceed your grasp? Jus' askin'! Wink Laugh

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This is getting good. Getting my popcorn ready.

The rumors I heard is that Kwame Morgan and Chris Tolson did not qualify.

Trust me, Molta-Charles needed a redshirt.

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It's prop 48 genius, and the NCAA doesn't even use that distinction anymore. Guess it wouldn't matter what info you Hampton insider had about who was or wasn't going to play, if they didn't qualify, it's a moot point and you don't need to be patting Nickelberry on the back for a 'good move' that the NCAA made for him.
 
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DAMN, DAMN, DAMN......I WANTED HIM TO GET DAT JOB Mad
 
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Don't ever tell me I don't know my team. Until you have all of their cell phone numbers in your phone don't speak to me.


Wow. If you have them, I guess that really puts the "fag" er, um, "fan" in fanatic. Handicap

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I'm not drinking the Kool-Aid. Maybe Nickleberry knows someone at UMass who gave him the interview as a favor, something that would look good for him to talk about in the local paper in Hampton. Nickelberry is very good at the political game and PR. Because for a UMass team that lost a terrific young coach (Ford) following a trip to the NIT Finals, Nickelberry would be a huge step down. Just being honest.

He hasn't shown he can be a good head coach yet! And for all those who say he's a great recruiter based on what some scouting service rankings say...I say having back-to-back MEAC quarterfinal losses says either 1) You're not a very good coach if your players are as good as you and the rankings say or 2) The players weren't that great to begin with.


This is a frigging joke. Nickleberry is hardly ready to coach in the A10. Thank God for affirmative action, because that had to be the only basis for this interview. (UMass had no intention of hiring Nickleberry.)


Roll Eyes

Why does it have to be about his race?




You know me. What other reason would UMASS would have to interview Nick for other than to fill-in the race check box - saw and interviewed one Kneegrow. He hasn't won chit or proved he can coach his way out of a Crackjack Box. Oh by the way, I will give Nickleberry credit for one thing - he can F--k up good talent.

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Besides, Derek used to play for UMass (and was asst at Youngstown and George Mason).

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First of all maybe how we see the MEAC outsiders see it a little differently. The bottom line is we have improved in the win column the last two years. Have the talent won anything yet, NO but they have played count it two years of basketball. Name other schools where on our level where after to years young talent won anything? The program which was in bad condition has been transformed. He has improved their GPA! He is a hell of a recruiter. Outside of the jealous ones on this board he is held in high esteem nationally. He has been a top notch assistant for 17 years for winning programs. He practically rebuilt Clemson's program where they were successful this year. His out of conference wins at HU in the l;ast two years have more than doubled what Collins did. This wasn't based off of rumor, this was based off of performance. The facts, not your opinions is what matters and bottom line he has produced. Ford lost for five years before he left UMASS by the way. He wasn't that successful from the outset. The standards we set for our coaches are unreal. Many of you talk like we are the ACC and SEC but the reality is we are the MEAC. You have to judge our programs in a different manner, mot just by wins and losses. Apparently other schools are doing that. He is in year two of rebuilding this program and in my opinion is building it in the right manner. sure we have a lot of talent but talent takes years to develop to build a team. Generally it's the third year you see the realization of a talented recruiting class breaking through.

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First of all maybe how we see the MEAC outsiders see it a little differently. The bottom line is we have improved in the win column the last two years. Have the talent won anything yet, NO but they have played count it two years of basketball. Name other schools where on our level where after to years young talent won anything? The program which was in bad condition has been transformed. He has improved their GPA! He is a hell of a recruiter. Outside of the jealous ones on this board he is held in high esteem nationally. He has been a top notch assistant for 17 years for winning programs. He practically rebuilt Clemson's program where they were successful this year. His out of conference wins at HU in the l;ast two years have more than doubled what Collins did. This wasn't based off of rumor, this was based off of performance. The facts, not your opinions is what matters and bottom line he has produced. Ford lost for five years before he left UMASS by the way. He wasn't that successful from the outset. The standards we set for our coaches are unreal. Many of you talk like we are the ACC and SEC but the reality is we are the MEAC. You have to judge our programs in a different manner, mot just by wins and losses. Apparently other schools are doing that. He is in year two of rebuilding this program and in my opinion is building it in the right manner. sure we have a lot of talent but talent takes years to develop to build a team. Generally it's the third year you see the realization of a talented recruiting class breaking through.


Finally, someone gets it!!!!! Thumb Up

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if he sees the future so well, explain to me the overall good hampton university gets from him interviewing? especially since his "job" hasn't produced any fruit yet. i see the personal benefit$, but not the institutional.

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People move up in the corporate world because they have sponsors. There is somebody out there with influence promoting this guy. Otherwise there is no way his body of work warrants being ranked among the top "up and coming head coaches in Division I". Nor has he accumulated sufficient accolades to be a finalist for the UMASS job. This guy has connections.

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First of all maybe how we see the MEAC outsiders see it a little differently. The bottom line is we have improved in the win column the last two years. Have the talent won anything yet, NO but they have played count it two years of basketball. Name other schools where on our level where after to years young talent won anything? The program which was in bad condition has been transformed. He has improved their GPA! He is a hell of a recruiter. Outside of the jealous ones on this board he is held in high esteem nationally. He has been a top notch assistant for 17 years for winning programs. He practically rebuilt Clemson's program where they were successful this year. His out of conference wins at HU in the l;ast two years have more than doubled what Collins did. This wasn't based off of rumor, this was based off of performance. The facts, not your opinions is what matters and bottom line he has produced. Ford lost for five years before he left UMASS by the way. He wasn't that successful from the outset. The standards we set for our coaches are unreal. Many of you talk like we are the ACC and SEC but the reality is we are the MEAC. You have to judge our programs in a different manner, mot just by wins and losses. Apparently other schools are doing that. He is in year two of rebuilding this program and in my opinion is building it in the right manner. sure we have a lot of talent but talent takes years to develop to build a team. Generally it's the third year you see the realization of a talented recruiting class breaking through.


Okay. I will wait with baited breath for the end of this year. I don't think things are going to be much different under Nickleberry. Like I said, this guy reminds me of what an old hunter use to call a catch dog. 'He can catch 'em but he don' know wit ta do wit 'em.'

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First of all maybe how we see the MEAC outsiders see it a little differently. The bottom line is we have improved in the win column the last two years. Have the talent won anything yet, NO but they have played count it two years of basketball. Name other schools where on our level where after to years young talent won anything? The program which was in bad condition has been transformed. He has improved their GPA! He is a hell of a recruiter. Outside of the jealous ones on this board he is held in high esteem nationally. He has been a top notch assistant for 17 years for winning programs. He practically rebuilt Clemson's program where they were successful this year. His out of conference wins at HU in the l;ast two years have more than doubled what Collins did. This wasn't based off of rumor, this was based off of performance. The facts, not your opinions is what matters and bottom line he has produced. Ford lost for five years before he left UMASS by the way. He wasn't that successful from the outset. The standards we set for our coaches are unreal. Many of you talk like we are the ACC and SEC but the reality is we are the MEAC. You have to judge our programs in a different manner, mot just by wins and losses. Apparently other schools are doing that. He is in year two of rebuilding this program and in my opinion is building it in the right manner. sure we have a lot of talent but talent takes years to develop to build a team. Generally it's the third year you see the realization of a talented recruiting class breaking through.


Okay. I will wait with baited breath for the end of this year. I don't think things are going to be much different under Nickleberry. Like I said, this guy reminds me of what an old hunter use to call a catch dog. 'He can catch 'em but he don' know wit ta do wit 'em.'
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I aint hatin on anybody trying to do bigger and better things. It may well be that he feels that he has outgrown Hampton. The man can recruit. That is for damn sure. I am a bit surprised that he is a finalist for the position given Hampton's poor performance this year and a first round exit in the MEAC tourney. I am not quite sure how to take his application for this position. Personally, it is ballsy as all get up given this past season, but there is something to be said for having the stones to reach for it given this past year at Hampton. A position as a D1 head coach may well be in his future. I would think however that it would be much easier to attain once he has PROVEN he can coach successfully on a D1AA level. If he gets the job, I wish him well. Period.


Point of accuracy- there is no Div. I-AA in Basketball.

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^^^^Correct and point made. I still think of basketball in football tersm . D-1AA/Subdivision etc. What I meant to say was mid-major I think?

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if he sees the future so well, explain to me the overall good hampton university gets from him interviewing? especially since his "job" hasn't produced any fruit yet. i see the personal benefit$, but not the institutional.


The benefit is that people are taking note of what Hampton is doing and the progress we are making.

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if he sees the future so well, explain to me the overall good hampton university gets from him interviewing? especially since his "job" hasn't produced any fruit yet. i see the personal benefit$, but not the institutional.


The benefit is that people are taking note of what Hampton is doing and the progress we are making.


All due respect BUT, what progress (in basketball) are you making?

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of course i observed nickleberry from a distance, so obviously i'm no authority on the guy. but from what i could see from a distance, his problems are not recruiting and i don't think its x's and o's. to me, his problems are his interpersonal skills with his players. clearly his players are talented and when they're motivated, they can beat just about anyone at the mid-major level. but the key is "when they're motivated". early in the season they played motivated basketball but they were very "uninspired" during the second half of the season. the players' body language said they don't like the coach and won't play their hardest for him. a tell tell sign to me was that i noticed when his players come out of the game, there was zero eye contact with the coach, much less the customary hand touch. if the players won't play hard for the coach, that's a very serious coaching flaw, albeit a correctable one. from a distance, it appeared that something went wrong interpersonally between the coach and players during the second half of the season. if i'm umass looking to hire a new coach, that would be a major concern for me…

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