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whines,
 whats your point?Only reason Vick is still on the roster (on paper only) is because the cap hit would be crippling. Blank has taken hits for being a "meddling owner" all of 2007 and before. It only came to a head with the Vick situation, which some pundits believe Blank enabled by his preferrential treatment of Vick and other core players, to the point of the bigg contract and bringing in coach-after-coach to get Vick to max. his potential. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _  |
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WOW! That's all I got to say. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ |
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Okay...okay....I had a bad day. Loss a fellow Bison yesterday.
I'm just saying seems like folks think they should take his character into consideration when we all know this is the business of sports. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ FAMU......graduating more students than any HBCU in America!! Strike strike and strike again |
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KSmith you above anyone else ought to know that business includes team image. Heck if that weren't the case the Falcons would have cut Keith Broke-arse 2 years ago. Brookings salary is every bit as high as Dunn's and Crumpler's yet he is spared. Why? Hometown boy, GA Tech boy, good ol'boy. It just has to be because this dude hasn't been an impact player in a long time. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State." - Joseph Goebbels, German Minister of Propaganda, 1933-1945 |
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I was saying the Falcons had more problems than Dunn & Crumpler. Also hiring the coach from Louisville was a disaster from the start and they might not be in the mess that the team was in if they would hired someone Like Singetary that has been around the leauge and know what it takes to coach men or hire someone like Marty who would have developed Vick like he did Rivers and Brees. That was the point I was making. Dunn is still a class act, but it is a business and I totally understand. He will get a job somewhere because of his character and he can still be productive. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 1gramblingfan |
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Sorry for your (and our) loss. It's a business pure and simple. You're right but, PG also has a point. I think EVERY team should be in the business of keeping a few quality guys especially they can give you a little production. Ask Dunn, to restructure his contract if you're bringing in a every down back and only going to use him as a third down or a change of speed back. But, I'm not sad, it's a business, I was upset that the Panthers let Moose go a few years back but, then I understood what its all about. BUT, i will also join in with PG and ask WHY Brookings haven't been shown the door yet (I agree with PG's statement). Dude has NEVER really been an impact for Atlanta. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ |
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Why? The Falcons have Norwood who they can use on third down. When the Falcons signed Turner, that was the end for Dunn in Atlanta right there. Why keep a guy at that age 33 around on a team that is no where near ready to win? I would think Dunn would want to be on team that has a chance to win a Super Bowl. I know he does great community service work, but that won't help the Falcons win the NFC South when there are so many other needs the team has. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0216/nba_g_dhoward_412B.jpg |
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Marshall I do agree with you on that point, it being a business & all. I hope & pray that Dunn gets on a team that has a chance to win the Superbowl because all he has been is a class act! _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 1gramblingfan |
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Is that a trick question? My guess is you already know the answer. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _  |
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Cutting him isn't going to help them solve those needs either. The Falcons even WITH Turner and Norwood, are 2 years off from winning the South. Dunn didn't FALL off, teams loaded up on the run because the Falcon's passing attack vanished. Yeah he's not the FSU Warrick Dunn BUT, he can still give you decent production. He gives you alot more on offense than Brookings gives you on defense. As far as his community service after the Vick debacle, you think you want to keep guys like that. You know, that team leader/experience thing. Can't cut a guy for team image and then say it's not that important when keeping a guy. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ |
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Keeping a hurt Brooking is a good question. Considering he counts as much aganist the cap as Dunn, Coleman & Crumpler and was not a LB that I just had to have. I smell Fish!
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Why does Atlanta need three running backs? With two, Dunn and Norwood, virtually the same player. Norwood is 10 years younger and has a cheaper contract. So you don't think teams still would not have loaded up on the run if Dunn was around for next season? Even if Atlanta drafts a QB, teams are still going to load up on the run. The Falcons passing game will still be shady because it will take at least three years for that QB to develop. Do you think Dunn will want to wait until he's 36 to win? Do you think Dunn would want to be on a bad team? Like I said, Dunn would be productive on a team that is close to the Super Bowl or playoff spot. Atlanta is not that team. I know NFL teams like to have good PR. We all do. But why have Dunn on the team and he will not have a role on offense? Atlanta will be wasting a roster spot and money. Unless he can play QB, then Atlanta does not need him to just be a spokesman for the team. Atlanta does not need guys that provide a "little" production or "decent" production. They need impact players, and players who provide tons of production. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0216/nba_g_dhoward_412B.jpg |
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Marshall I am with you if you are cutting him for business reasons, but why keep Brookings who counts heavily aganist the cap and has been hurt for the last two years. You don't mentioned that.
You knew what you were getting with Dunn. Are Turner & Norwood ready to become full-time backs? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 1gramblingfan |
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If Atlanta is going through this rebuilding mode then Brooking and Horn should be next on the list. I think right now Blank might be looking to trade them both to get something in return for them by the draft. If not, then those players will be released. I don't think Norwood was ever drafted to be a full-time back. I think Turner is not a full-time back either, but we won't know until he plays 16 games in that role. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2008/0216/nba_g_dhoward_412B.jpg |
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I can kind of go along with what you are saying. I sure hope so because it smells like Fish to cut Dunn, Coleman, Crumpler for cap reasons and keep Brookings who is white and has been hurt for the last two years and I did not think he was all that when healthy.
Turner & Noorwood will find out the difference between being a back-up and being the man for sixteen games. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 1gramblingfan |
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Well,
Why you restructure or did you miss that part in my original post? If it's about money that's what you do.
See the last point of my response. I never said anything about drafting a QB.
Where did you hear this at? It'd be different if he demanded a trade. I've yet to hear Warrick talk about being traded to a better team or wanting to be cut so he can sign on a better team.
As somebody said, people KNOW what they're getting with Dunn. Also Dunn had played in the NFC South, teams that will POUND a feature back and pride themselves on defense. Like Whines ask, are Norwood and Turner ready to be the man and why drop tons of money on backups? If neither one of them are ready to be the man, teh Falcons will have basically wasted alot more money than reworking Dunn's contract. P.S. MOST teams have 3-4 running backs on the roster. Keeping Dunn (an experienced back) would actually show some type of experience. Especially if one is going to a run first offense.  But that would be common sense. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ |
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I could have not said it better!  _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ 1gramblingfan |
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Warwick Dunn is a great human being and true humanitarian, but his useful life span as an NFL running back is coming to an end. He has played 11 seasons in the most physical sport that there is. The average life span of an NFL running back is 5 years, Warwick more than doubled this doubled this.
The Falcons did what they had to do, if Dunn truly has a good year or two left, then a team will definitely pick him up. But teams should be wise also, I know that the Houston Texans wish they did not take Ahman Green from the Packers. Although Green looked to be in great physical shape, the Texans later found out that he was damaged goods. Dunn cannot be as fast as he once was and remember the difference between a 4.4 and 4.5 time in the 40 yd dash is equal to 1.8 yards in distance. This means that in the .1 tenth of a second, whether or not a running back hit the open hole or misses it........... |
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I've never been turned on by who the press annoints as a good image person. I wouldn't even say Warrick fit their bill in that regards. His cause was too urban; if you know what I mean. They salute him but still look at it like a continuation of his own saga. That doesn't carry the same political weight as "good image" guys. The good image guys by media standards are usually the "conservative" types. IMHO _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ FAMU......graduating more students than any HBCU in America!! Strike strike and strike again |
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