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Just the Stats: U.S. Students Lag Behind in Math and Science

by Olivia Majesky-Pullmann
Jan 22, 2008, 21:54

Overall, U.S. students are performing better in math and science than students in foreign countries. However, U.S. students perform considerably behind the highest-achieving countries, based on a recent study released by the American Institutes for Research (AIR), a nonprofit behavioral and social science research organization based in Washington, D.C.

Dr. Gary Phillips, chief scientist at AIR and author of the report Chance Favors the Prepared Mind: Mathematics and Science Indicators for Comparing States and Nations, categorized students into three levels: basic, proficient and advanced. The report presents an in-depth evaluation of mathematic and science scores of eighth-grade students, both internationally and in each of the 50 U.S. states. The analysis reviews scores collected in 2005 and 2007 on the National Assessment of Education Progress (NAEP) for U.S, students; compared to 2003 international data on the Trends in International Mathematics and Science Study (TIMSS) for students in other countries in grade 8.

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“The take away message from this report is that the United States is losing the race to prepare the minds of the future generation,” Dr. Phillips said. “The report shows the United States needs to substantially increase the scientific and mathematical competency of the general adult population so citizens can better understand and address many of the world’s most-pressing problems.”

“In addition we need larger numbers of people working in the scientific disciplines in order to better compete in a global economic environment,” Dr. Phillips said. “To achieve these goals, national and state policy makers need indicators of scientific and mathematical progress early in the educational pipeline. It is argued that the strategy of linking NAEP to TIMSS helps to provide this system of indicators.”

This whole thing is continuing to crumble as we watch. The Asian countries, esp. China, are poised to assume the lead in the technology race at some point. Even more curious is the US companies' schemes to get foreign born and educated engineers and scientists into the USA to work DESPITE THE AVAILABILITY of US citizens to do the job. Why? They can pay them much less and they WILL NOT complain. Add that to the ability to just use the workforce in those countries and not move them to the US for the same reasons. Do I sense an ominous trend here? Stay tuned.....Smoke

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“The take away message from this report is that the United States is losing the race to prepare the minds of the future generation,” Dr. Phillips said. “The report shows the United States needs to substantially increase the scientific and mathematical competency of the general adult population so citizens can better understand and address many of the world’s most-pressing problems.”

“In addition we need larger numbers of people working in the scientific disciplines in order to better compete in a global economic environment,” Dr. Phillips said. “To achieve these goals, national and state policy makers need indicators of scientific and mathematical progress early in the educational pipeline. It is argued that the strategy of linking NAEP to TIMSS helps to provide this system of indicators.”

This whole thing is continuing to crumble as we watch. The Asian countries, esp. China, are poised to assume the lead in the technology race at some point. Even more curious is the US companies' schemes to get foreign born and educated engineers and scientists into the USA to work DESPITE THE AVAILABILITY of US citizens to do the job. Why? They can pay them much less and they WILL NOT complain. Add that to the ability to just use the workforce in those countries and not move them to the US for the same reasons. Do I sense an ominous trend here? Stay tuned.....Smoke


Interesting point and forecast.
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“The take away message from this report is that the United States is losing the race to prepare the minds of the future generation,” Dr. Phillips said. “The report shows the United States needs to substantially increase the scientific and mathematical competency of the general adult population so citizens can better understand and address many of the world’s most-pressing problems.”

“In addition we need larger numbers of people working in the scientific disciplines in order to better compete in a global economic environment,” Dr. Phillips said. “To achieve these goals, national and state policy makers need indicators of scientific and mathematical progress early in the educational pipeline. It is argued that the strategy of linking NAEP to TIMSS helps to provide this system of indicators.”

This whole thing is continuing to crumble as we watch. The Asian countries, esp. China, are poised to assume the lead in the technology race at some point. Even more curious is the US companies' schemes to get foreign born and educated engineers and scientists into the USA to work DESPITE THE AVAILABILITY of US citizens to do the job. Why? They can pay them much less and they WILL NOT complain. Add that to the ability to just use the workforce in those countries and not move them to the US for the same reasons. Do I sense an ominous trend here? Stay tuned.....Smoke


Interesting point and forecast.
__No child left behind Cry

__ We still have some more difficult days ahead. Clock

___ A nation still @ risk Book


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I see a unique opportunity for HBCU's to grow technology centers based on growing aptitude at the lower levels of secondary education and bringing those children into the fold. FAMU is a the top producer of Black Ph.d's in physics and a top producer of Doctors of Pharmacology. We need to build on brands such as these to attract more students and research dollars. With the market being in such need in America, programs of note will attract research dollars and recruiters.

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I see a unique opportunity for HBCU's to grow technology centers based on growing aptitude at the lower levels of secondary education and bringing those children into the fold. FAMU is a the top producer of Black Ph.d's in physics and a top producer of Doctors of Pharmacology. We need to build on brands such as these to attract more students and research dollars. With the market being in such need in America, programs of note will attract research dollars and recruiters.


Trust you're not the only one. BUT I think HBCUs need to have technology mandates (A la Baruch College) to ensure students are technology savvy/compliant and have the "each one reach one teach one" philosopy work its magic.

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