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...just face it PWC colleges are recruiting you to get federal funds, win championships and to meet their quota not because they want you there...

^^^^Gonna use that in my sig...

Hallelujah, thank you, Baby Boy!! I'm glad that someone pointed that out!

And I agree too that our kids need to actively recruit our HBCUs, rather than waiting for our HBCUs to recruit them!

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Originally posted by Baby Boy:

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Originally posted by MJ:
^^^ I'm sorry, but I completely disagree with you on the issue of HBCUs not needing to target other groups.

White colleges and universities are making EVERY effort to recruit minorities, especially Harvard. FAMU at one point was deemed to have Black students with the highest GPAs in the nation... guess who has them now? Not an HBCU. I believe it's Harvard. If PWCUs are doing every effort to recruit minority students (Blacks included) to their campuses, HBCUs NEED to respond back by recruiting other groups.

Had it not been for the Marching Wildcats, I would've never known anything about B-CC. Thank God for the band but it shouldn't be that way from the beginning. I should've heard of all HBCUs in Florida since my sophmore year, but I didn't. I didn't know Edward Waters existed until I got to Cookman. That is NOT good!

Yes, I am not Black. I am Hispanic and would love to see more Hispanics enjoy the great years I've enjoyed at Cookman. The problem? Some don't even know Cookman exists but know about Duke while North Carolina Central is right around the corner from Duke and they know about Florida State, while FAMU is probably a block away.

Not trying to get personal but your parents and community should play a roll in that as well I am a native of orlando...born and raised and my parents exsposed me to every positive thing Black out there....My Mother a Cookman alumn and my Dad an alumn of Edward Waters aunts and uncles are alumns of Fl Memorial , FAMU and Spellman...my church is HBCU deep as well as my community and I find it hard to believe that no one in your community or no one that you are in contact with had a HBCU connection.....I wasn't recruited my an HBCU I recruited them.....I fell in love with Hampton when my sister 10 years my senior graduated from there at that point it was a no brainer for me that I would attend and graduate from Hampton.....now believe or not but Florida is one of Hampton's strongest Alumni Bases......just face it PWC colleges are recruiting you to get federal funds, win championships and to meet their quota not because they want you there.... As for the GPA data if you have less students that number should be higher and I think the GPAs at Harvard are going to be higher across the the board..think about it....But we all know that some of America's greatest leaders are products of HBCUs

I agree to disagree with you on this one. How could his family give him the knowledge of an HBCU when all they know about is Arroz con Pollo and the Hispanic Heritage Parade? (Not trying to be funny because I know MJ on a personal level) Your parents were both Alumnus of HBCU's so you knew about them. As you stated, your Community were also deep in the HBCU culture. Other people who aren't as lucky will not know about HBCUs. Who is to blame?
Let's flip the script for a second. Could you name all of the PWC in any given area? If you can't is it still considered your parents fault and the community? I know MJ. He is one of the most crunkest Wildcat's in Daytona Beach. He is a MADE man of Kappa Alpha Psi. He is the section leader for the Pride. His academics is above par. Since our freshman year, I have called him my Melanin deprived Black Brother. He is just one example of how other racial groups could help out our HBCU's. You don't have to be Black to go to an HBCU. Just like you didn't have to be Black to speak against Slavery.

I have a different opinion about this. I wonder if we looked at the statistics breakdown more closely if we would get a different story. My son and daugter are four grades apart. She went to the University of Pittsburgh with a full scholarship. Now, after she's graduated, she's saying to me that she wishes she'd gone to Howard, but when she was applying to schools she never showed any interest in Howard. But I think it had more to do with the fact that it was too close to home. We live in Montgomery County, MD and my kids went to a good high school which has a high percentage of Black students who are high achieving. In my daughter's class, most of the academically talented Black students either went to Howard or to UMD.

Now in my son's graduating class, I have noticed a different trend. Morgan State, for example, got a big boost in the number of kids from his high school. I think people used to look at it as a Baltimore school, but now they see it more as a good Maryland school.

I saw a lot of different HBCU's represented in the list of schools that my son's class would attend. I think that the college tours are having a lot to do with this. Now my son didn't get a huge scholarship from Hampton and we don't qualify for too much need-based aid except for loans, but I think that Hampton is worth every penny. And I would have been happy if he'd gone to Morgan too, especially since I know some faculty people there who would have watched out for him.

But what I am seeing is more middle class Blacks choosing HBCUs in my neck of the woods, but those of you who say that parents have a lot to do with it are right. We want our kids to go to school someplace where they will be happy, safe, and supported because young people need these things to thrive academically and emotionally. High school counselors like to encourage parents to stay out of the college decision, but I say NO to that. It's my money and I know my kids better than they do!!!!

I agree that HBCU's need to reach out more to get talented students from every racial and economic background. I have a daughter in the 11th grade who is already receiving letters of interest from just about every PWC on the east coast (some of which I've never even HEARD of). Not ONE HBCU has expressed an interest in her. They (PWC's) seem to have gotten her name from a list based on her PSAT and other test scores. I have had to do a lot of digging on the internet to gather information about HBCUs that would appeal to her (she wants to study engineering and eventually become an astronaut). Va. Union is right across town and Va. State is a 20 minute drive away. I have asked for info from those schools, plus Hampton, NCA&T, and my own Alma Mater, NSU: I got nothing back! So far she has narrowed her choices down to Va. Tech and NC State. As a matter of fact, Va. Tech has shown an interest since she STARTED high school.
Students can't recruit schools if they've never heard of them. HBCUs should be just as aggressive, if not more so, in trying to get these talented young people to their campuses.

Interesting comments.

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Originally posted by TechRattler:

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...just face it PWC colleges are recruiting you to get federal funds, win championships and to meet their quota not because they want you there...

^^^^Gonna use that in my sig...

Hallelujah, thank you, Baby Boy!! I'm glad that someone pointed that out!

And I agree too that our kids need to actively recruit our HBCUs, rather than waiting for our HBCUs to recruit them!

AHHHHHHH Tech ummm I graduated from Hampton.. ...but thanks for getting my point

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Originally posted by BccWildkat4U2Nv:

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Originally posted by Baby Boy:

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Originally posted by MJ:
^^^ I'm sorry, but I completely disagree with you on the issue of HBCUs not needing to target other groups.

White colleges and universities are making EVERY effort to recruit minorities, especially Harvard. FAMU at one point was deemed to have Black students with the highest GPAs in the nation... guess who has them now? Not an HBCU. I believe it's Harvard. If PWCUs are doing every effort to recruit minority students (Blacks included) to their campuses, HBCUs NEED to respond back by recruiting other groups.

Had it not been for the Marching Wildcats, I would've never known anything about B-CC. Thank God for the band but it shouldn't be that way from the beginning. I should've heard of all HBCUs in Florida since my sophmore year, but I didn't. I didn't know Edward Waters existed until I got to Cookman. That is NOT good!

Yes, I am not Black. I am Hispanic and would love to see more Hispanics enjoy the great years I've enjoyed at Cookman. The problem? Some don't even know Cookman exists but know about Duke while North Carolina Central is right around the corner from Duke and they know about Florida State, while FAMU is probably a block away.

Not trying to get personal but your parents and community should play a roll in that as well I am a native of orlando...born and raised and my parents exsposed me to every positive thing Black out there....My Mother a Cookman alumn and my Dad an alumn of Edward Waters aunts and uncles are alumns of Fl Memorial , FAMU and Spellman...my church is HBCU deep as well as my community and I find it hard to believe that no one in your community or no one that you are in contact with had a HBCU connection.....I wasn't recruited my an HBCU I recruited them.....I fell in love with Hampton when my sister 10 years my senior graduated from there at that point it was a no brainer for me that I would attend and graduate from Hampton.....now believe or not but Florida is one of Hampton's strongest Alumni Bases......just face it PWC colleges are recruiting you to get federal funds, win championships and to meet their quota not because they want you there.... As for the GPA data if you have less students that number should be higher and I think the GPAs at Harvard are going to be higher across the the board..think about it....But we all know that some of America's greatest leaders are products of HBCUs

I agree to disagree with you on this one. How could his family give him the knowledge of an HBCU when all they know about is Arroz con Pollo and the Hispanic Heritage Parade? (Not trying to be funny because I know MJ on a personal level) Your parents were both Alumnus of HBCU's so you knew about them. As you stated, your Community were also deep in the HBCU culture. Other people who aren't as lucky will not know about HBCUs. Who is to blame?
Let's flip the script for a second. Could you name all of the PWC in any given area? If you can't is it still considered your parents fault and the community? I know MJ. He is one of the most crunkest Wildcat's in Daytona Beach. He is a MADE man of Kappa Alpha Psi. He is the section leader for the Pride. His academics is above par. Since our freshman year, I have called him my Melanin deprived Black Brother. He is just one example of how other racial groups could help out our HBCU's. You don't have to be Black to go to an HBCU. Just like you didn't have to be Black to speak against Slavery.

Maybe MJ is an exception to the rule but most hispanics that I know in the Central Florida area identify with the black community...so with that said there had to be a connection somewhere obviously it was if he ended up at Cookman..and now since he is an Alumn as well as a Kappa brother it is up to him to share what he knows to his family, friends, and community.

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Originally posted by dmbattle:
I agree that HBCU's need to reach out more to get talented students from every racial and economic background. I have a daughter in the 11th grade who is already receiving letters of interest from just about every PWC on the east coast (some of which I've never even HEARD of). Not ONE HBCU has expressed an interest in her. They (PWC's) seem to have gotten her name from a list based on her PSAT and other test scores. I have had to do a lot of digging on the internet to gather information about HBCUs that would appeal to her (she wants to study engineering and eventually become an astronaut). Va. Union is right across town and Va. State is a 20 minute drive away. I have asked for info from those schools, plus Hampton, NCA&T, and my own Alma Mater, NSU: I got nothing back! So far she has narrowed her choices down to Va. Tech and NC State. As a matter of fact, Va. Tech has shown an interest since she STARTED high school.
Students can't recruit schools if they've never heard of them. HBCUs should be just as aggressive, if not more so, in trying to get these talented young people to their campuses.

dm, you are in Richmond from what I gather.....why have you not taken your daughter to Hampton,A&T,...God I hope you have taken her to NSU since thats your Alma Mata.....A & T produces Astronaunts........ ask yourself why those PWC's are recruiting her....have you read about the race relationships at VaTech? and they are still on her list...come on man

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Originally posted by ForceMom:
I have a different opinion about this. I wonder if we looked at the statistics breakdown more closely if we would get a different story. My son and daugter are four grades apart. She went to the University of Pittsburgh with a full scholarship. Now, after she's graduated, she's saying to me that she wishes she'd gone to Howard, but when she was applying to schools she never showed any interest in Howard. But I think it had more to do with the fact that it was too close to home. We live in Montgomery County, MD and my kids went to a good high school which has a high percentage of Black students who are high achieving. In my daughter's class, most of the academically talented Black students either went to Howard or to UMD.

Now in my son's graduating class, I have noticed a different trend. Morgan State, for example, got a big boost in the number of kids from his high school. I think people used to look at it as a Baltimore school, but now they see it more as a good Maryland school.

I saw a lot of different HBCU's represented in the list of schools that my son's class would attend. I think that the college tours are having a lot to do with this. Now my son didn't get a huge scholarship from Hampton and we don't qualify for too much need-based aid except for loans, but I think that Hampton is worth every penny. And I would have been happy if he'd gone to Morgan too, especially since I know some faculty people there who would have watched out for him.

But what I am seeing is more middle class Blacks choosing HBCUs in my neck of the woods, but those of you who say that parents have a lot to do with it are right. We want our kids to go to school someplace where they will be happy, safe, and supported because young people need these things to thrive academically and emotionally. High school counselors like to encourage parents to stay out of the college decision, but I say NO to that. It's my money and I know my kids better than they do!!!!

As a Parental Involvement Specialist I would love to slap every counselor who told you or any other parent not to get involved.......thats a major problem today.

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Originally posted by Baby Boy:

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Originally posted by TechRattler:

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...just face it PWC colleges are recruiting you to get federal funds, win championships and to meet their quota not because they want you there...

^^^^Gonna use that in my sig...

Hallelujah, thank you, Baby Boy!! I'm glad that someone pointed that out!

And I agree too that our kids need to actively recruit our HBCUs, rather than waiting for our HBCUs to recruit them!

AHHHHHHH Tech ummm I graduated from Hampton.. ...but thanks for getting my point

Oops, my bad. I corrected it.

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Originally posted by Baby Boy:

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Originally posted by BccWildkat4U2Nv:

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Originally posted by Baby Boy:

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Originally posted by MJ:
^^^ I'm sorry, but I completely disagree with you on the issue of HBCUs not needing to target other groups.

White colleges and universities are making EVERY effort to recruit minorities, especially Harvard. FAMU at one point was deemed to have Black students with the highest GPAs in the nation... guess who has them now? Not an HBCU. I believe it's Harvard. If PWCUs are doing every effort to recruit minority students (Blacks included) to their campuses, HBCUs NEED to respond back by recruiting other groups.

Had it not been for the Marching Wildcats, I would've never known anything about B-CC. Thank God for the band but it shouldn't be that way from the beginning. I should've heard of all HBCUs in Florida since my sophmore year, but I didn't. I didn't know Edward Waters existed until I got to Cookman. That is NOT good!

Yes, I am not Black. I am Hispanic and would love to see more Hispanics enjoy the great years I've enjoyed at Cookman. The problem? Some don't even know Cookman exists but know about Duke while North Carolina Central is right around the corner from Duke and they know about Florida State, while FAMU is probably a block away.

Not trying to get personal but your parents and community should play a roll in that as well I am a native of orlando...born and raised and my parents exsposed me to every positive thing Black out there....My Mother a Cookman alumn and my Dad an alumn of Edward Waters aunts and uncles are alumns of Fl Memorial , FAMU and Spellman...my church is HBCU deep as well as my community and I find it hard to believe that no one in your community or no one that you are in contact with had a HBCU connection.....I wasn't recruited my an HBCU I recruited them.....I fell in love with Hampton when my sister 10 years my senior graduated from there at that point it was a no brainer for me that I would attend and graduate from Hampton.....now believe or not but Florida is one of Hampton's strongest Alumni Bases......just face it PWC colleges are recruiting you to get federal funds, win championships and to meet their quota not because they want you there.... As for the GPA data if you have less students that number should be higher and I think the GPAs at Harvard are going to be higher across the the board..think about it....But we all know that some of America's greatest leaders are products of HBCUs

I agree to disagree with you on this one. How could his family give him the knowledge of an HBCU when all they know about is Arroz con Pollo and the Hispanic Heritage Parade? (Not trying to be funny because I know MJ on a personal level) Your parents were both Alumnus of HBCU's so you knew about them. As you stated, your Community were also deep in the HBCU culture. Other people who aren't as lucky will not know about HBCUs. Who is to blame?
Let's flip the script for a second. Could you name all of the PWC in any given area? If you can't is it still considered your parents fault and the community? I know MJ. He is one of the most crunkest Wildcat's in Daytona Beach. He is a MADE man of Kappa Alpha Psi. He is the section leader for the Pride. His academics is above par. Since our freshman year, I have called him my Melanin deprived Black Brother. He is just one example of how other racial groups could help out our HBCU's. You don't have to be Black to go to an HBCU. Just like you didn't have to be Black to speak against Slavery.

Maybe MJ is an exception to the rule but most hispanics that I know in the Central Florida area identify with the black community...so with that said there had to be a connection somewhere obviously it was if he ended up at Cookman..and now since he is an Alumn as well as a Kappa brother it is up to him to share what he knows to his family, friends, and community.

BB, Latins in the Orlando area identify with the AA community mainly because of the large Puerto Rican demographics. Add to that the exposure that they get to the state HBCUs in the form of large scale events and relatively centralized proximity to all three schools.

Here in Miami, I think that BCC aggressively recruit in the Latin (read Cuban) community, not only from a athletic standpoint, but also academically. I've been a huge advocate for more aggressive recruiting of students in the latin and carribean communities here in South Florida not only to provide a great educational experience, but also in an effort to tap into its huge economic and political base. A win-win all around!

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Originally posted by dmbattle:
I agree that HBCU's need to reach out more to get talented students from every racial and economic background. I have a daughter in the 11th grade who is already receiving letters of interest from just about every PWC on the east coast (some of which I've never even HEARD of). Not ONE HBCU has expressed an interest in her. They (PWC's) seem to have gotten her name from a list based on her PSAT and other test scores. I have had to do a lot of digging on the internet to gather information about HBCUs that would appeal to her (she wants to study engineering and eventually become an astronaut). Va. Union is right across town and Va. State is a 20 minute drive away. I have asked for info from those schools, plus Hampton, NCA&T, and my own Alma Mater, NSU: I got nothing back! So far she has narrowed her choices down to Va. Tech and NC State. As a matter of fact, Va. Tech has shown an interest since she STARTED high school.
Students can't recruit schools if they've never heard of them. HBCUs should be just as aggressive, if not more so, in trying to get these talented young people to their campuses.

You know, come to think of it, I had the same experience with my kids. I don't remember getting any recruitment mail from any HBCU except for my son got some stuff from Fisk late in the year after he had already made his choice for Hampton.

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Originally posted by Baby Boy:
Maybe MJ is an exception to the rule... now since he is an Alumn as well as a Kappa brother it is up to him to share what he knows to his family, friends, and community.

Yes, MJ might be an exeption. I fully believe that he will share this experience with everyone. Oh yea, he is not an Alumn yet. He graduates this year!

PRINCESS ANNE, MD – The University of Maryland Eastern Shore's fall enrollment increase of 6.7 percent is tops among the traditional four-year universities in the University System of Maryland (USM) in fall 2006.

Total enrollment at UMES is 4,130, the first time in the institution's 120-year history that the student body headcount has exceeded 4,000. UMES has experienced significant enrollment growth for several years; in 1996 the headcount was 3,166.

“The University of Maryland Eastern Shore has become an institution of choice for all students in Maryland,” said President Thelma B. Thompson. “Recent accreditations, our unique academic programs, an outstanding faculty, an infusion of new scholarships and one of the most beautiful campuses in America are drawing more and more students to UMES.”

UMES, a historically black college that is one of the most racially diverse among the USM's 13 universities and research institutions, has a student population that is 77.4 percent African-American, 11.3 percent white and 88.7 percent other races. Students come from over 31 states and over 60 foreign countries. All counties in Maryland are represented and 922 (22.3 percent) are from the Lower Eastern Shore.

The University has 1,614 male students (representing 39.1 percent of the student body) and 2,516 female students. Undergraduate students number 3,697, and graduate students, 433. UMES had 29 undergraduate majors, 11 master's programs and six doctoral programs, and some 94 percent of the faculty have the terminal degree in their field of study.

According to a USM preliminary enrollment report, 5.1 percent more students enrolled in System institutions this fall than this time last year. Headcount enrollment numbers have reached a record high, boasting 135,005 new students, excluding University of Maryland University College’s (UMUC) overseas students, for the 13-member system.

While Salisbury University (5.3 percent), Towson (5.1 percent), University of Baltimore (1.1 percent), University of Maryland, Baltimore (2.0 percent) and University of Maryland, Baltimore County (1.3 percent) all reported increases, UMES’ enrollment increase of 6.7 percent is the highest increase since its founding.

On a broader scale, the recent Minorities in Higher Education 22nd Annual Status Report (2006) indicates that African American students trail their white counterparts in terms of college enrollment. The most diverse institution in the University System of Maryland, UMES enjoys the highest six-year graduation rate (50 percent) among the four black colleges in Maryland, and ranks with the leaders among historically black colleges nationally.

Furthermore, a significant number of UMES students graduating with a bachelor’s degree attend graduate school. Out of 389 students who graduated in the 2004-05 academic year, 101 (26 percent) attended graduate school. University officials expect comparable numbers for the 2005-06 academic year.

Importantly, in keeping with its mission, UMES enrolls large numbers of students who are first in their respective families to attend college. During the 2005-06 academic year, 51 percent of entering freshmen were first generation college students.
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