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SU, JSU, Gram, and Tenn St have all voluntarily excluded themselves from the HONDA ballot...I understand why and I aint mad 'em either...only one titan missing from Olympus and I hope they catch the flash...
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Athletic Director |
Proud Pirate, we appreciate the compliment so please don't take my comments as any kind of insult to your or anyone else's program. The Honda is a showcase of what is supposed to be the best bands. It is not a showcase of "a variety" of bands. While the SWAC may have sent a variety of bands, it is because compared to each other, they are pretty much even par on show type and styles. Therefore, when it comes time for them to choose 2 from the conference, it's generally a tight race with two that come thru the chute. In the MEAC, it's a whole different story. We might have some inept folks running the general athletics, but in the "band" world, folks who vote know the deal. It's not about popularity either. It's about being superb at a craft. It's like the difference between being able to sew (mend) a rip in a pair of pants and being a seamstress. We're talking a great divide. Fact: There are 3 (only 3 at this time) bands out there that far EXCEED any and all programs in HBCU's at this time. They call the MEAC home. There are some VERY GOOD ones that I'd say call the SWAC and the SIAC home. Then, there are all the rest. It's not what you do, but how you do it. At the end of the day, when folks have walked away from the Georgia Dome and cheered for the band that jumped around all krunk, they'll say, "So and So was krunk, BUT you should have seen/heard NSU". Damn that was tight or sounded like real music yada, yada, yada". While folks do enjoy most bands for the "show", they also appreciate quality. You're talking about a city where it's not uncommon to see Common at the Quik Trip. Racket does not impress them. After suffering thru some hard efforts by the smaller bands - who I'd have to place above dear HIU- they are just happy someone made them wake up. That's when they sit down and know the real show has begun. When I can sit in a stadium and listen to FAMU play Elsa's Song (I think that's the name of it) and cry tears from sheer pleasure, I'd choose that any day over crying because I just wanted another band to STFU because I'm quite sure I'd be deaf and crazy if they don't. Based on sheer depth and quality, all three of the Big 3 will have to pass up the trip in order for anybody else to get in. That's the reality of it. Honda isn't trying to showcase Yugos. I love you man, so I hope you don't take it the wrong way. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ The true worth of a race must be measured by the character of its womanhood. ~Mary McLeod Bethune  |
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Bench Warmer |
Well said, Ms. Alpha! Truth be told, but if BCU and FAMU both decided not to show up, the crowd would be very slim. |
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All-American |
Alpha,
No not offended at all since fortunately I have seen those 4 bands I mentioned in person numerous times, but its good to see your perspective. I think the folks at A&T, JSU, SU, TnSt might have something to say about their being only 3 programs that "far" exceed any and all programs in HBCUs  but I guess your thinking is right in line with many others, & therefore thats why we see the MEAC with the same 3 bands year after year.I have seen the 4 bands I mentioned (& others) against those 3 and while I admit they are not as consistent, on a given day they can or have performed just as well if not better than the so called TOP 3 bands. No offense to the following programs: but I'll put the MEAC "mediocre 4"? up against VSU, WSSU, TU, SSU, CAU, etc ANY DAY. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Still wearing thy colors....THE BLUE AND THE WHITE !!<br /><br />c/o 2001- QTIV |
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Athletic Director |
They could talk until they are "school colors in the face" but talking has never created a situation. IE: Saying don't make it so.
Consistency is a quality of excellence.
Me too. Any day. They are among "the rest" I mentioned. Little known fact: I was a music major until my Junior year and began music lessons when I was 10. I play flute very well, can read music, tinker it out on piano if necessary, can write a tune if I'm forced (small tune mind you), and recognize K Flat and B Demolished when I hear it. The Marching Wildcats have not always been an excellent band, and at times I can even admit they sucked. That is not the case today. They are excellent and while they may not have elements that others desire to see, they are consistently good at what they do. Like FAMU, we are beginning to see emulation by others. I suppose it's flattery. However, my thought is that if you copy me, you betta do it better or you'll look kinda silly. Element 1 that is a MUST. Decipline After that, everything else falls into place because talent will shine. Thank you for understanding what I'm trying to saying. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ The true worth of a race must be measured by the character of its womanhood. ~Mary McLeod Bethune |
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Head Coach |
Well said.  _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _  When we wake up in the morning, we have two simple choices. Go back to sleep and dream, or wake up and chase those dreams.  |
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All-American |
Alpha, you my girl and all but BCC is a long way from JSU, SU, and TNState.....a LONG way. When bands are mentioned, it's all about JSU, SU, TNState, FAMU, and yes Grambling. BCC and Norfolk are known by some band people but that's it. No one is gonna go to a game to see those two bands unless you are a black college football/band junkie---they simply don't carry the weight of a Sonic BOOM, Jukebox, or Marching 100 to the general population. The reason the SWAC sees different bands is because that is how we were raised. The masses decided that two great programs had never been and so it was their turn. Those two bands would typically have been 5th or 6th choices. Our 5th or 6th best bands gave your top two a run for their money. Of all the Honda's I rarely recall many people singing the praises of BCC as they have Prairie View, Jackson State, TxSo, and NSU. BCC is a very simple band and seems like they get their azzez handed to them at Honda every year. Simple arrangements and simple drills. NSU has simple drills and little excitement but nice arrangements and songs. Come up to the technicality and showmanship of a Jackson State or Southern and let's see ya keep up!!
The bands we have sent have performed well against your best so maybe it's just a case of us having a better collection of bands compared to your three. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Just in terms of federal research expenditures, JSU is second in the country in terms of historically black colleges and universities," Okojie said. "We had research expenditures of $47 million last year, second only to Howard University, and most of that was money brought in by the faculty...."*****UPDATE*****"We currently rank No. 1 among research intensive HBCU's in acquiring federal research dollars.".....Ronald Mason, JSU Presidential Newsletter(2004) |
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All-Conference |
You need to pass what ever it is you are smoking casue NSU is if not one of the best drilling bands in HBCU bands. Also, If having a Fat Guy or white guy run in front of the band and pop lock is entertaining I would prefer NSU keep doing what it is doing. Jackson is a good band but yall will be forever known as that other band in the SWAC after SU. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _  BEHOLD THE GREEN AND GOLD!!!! |
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All-American |
That's funny. Simply marching 8 to 5 and doing pinwheels and step-two's is a simple drill. Making a perfectly symmetrical formation with curved lines while marching backwards, is NOT a simple drill. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _  I do not suffer from insanity.....I'm enjoying every minute of it!!! |
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Assistant Coach |
I have to agree Tigerpride. Those step 2 drills are about as easy and simple as you can get.
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All-American |
Dude, maybe so but NSU only forms straight lines and then stand still for 30 seconds...form another straight line and then stand still for 5 minutes. BCC and A&T basically do the same thing. FAMU gets creative with drills but I have yet to see another MEAC band do a decent drill. JSU drills to 2-3 songs making multiple formations WITHOUT STANDING IN PLACE FOR HALF OF THE SHOW. We keep it moving. Why can't NSU or BCC do that? Post a clip of a NSU or BCC drill to show me that I am wrong. I don't mind eating crow. This message has been edited. Last edited by: Tigerpride, _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Just in terms of federal research expenditures, JSU is second in the country in terms of historically black colleges and universities," Okojie said. "We had research expenditures of $47 million last year, second only to Howard University, and most of that was money brought in by the faculty...."*****UPDATE*****"We currently rank No. 1 among research intensive HBCU's in acquiring federal research dollars.".....Ronald Mason, JSU Presidential Newsletter(2004) |
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All-American |
Maybe so but you all will always be named as a another HBCU band, you know like JSU, Grambling, and FAMU. You all may be good but you don't have the name of the Sonic BOOM. Musically, UAPB and JSU can get with you and we certainly march better and LONGER than you. We also have the J-Settes. MEAC people know who the J-Settes are. Go to the SWACPAGE now and ask the name of the dance line for NSU. You gonna hear crickets. You are 20 years behind....not saying you ain't good but don't try to compare yourself to greatness. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Just in terms of federal research expenditures, JSU is second in the country in terms of historically black colleges and universities," Okojie said. "We had research expenditures of $47 million last year, second only to Howard University, and most of that was money brought in by the faculty...."*****UPDATE*****"We currently rank No. 1 among research intensive HBCU's in acquiring federal research dollars.".....Ronald Mason, JSU Presidential Newsletter(2004) |
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All-American |
If putting your audience to sleep during halftime is entertaining to you, I would prefer to keep doing what JSU is doing. I have no doubt that NSU would give JSU a great battle in the stands since your band is full of Sonic BOOM alums but your band program is not as complete as ours. You would lose halftime by the time before the Prancing J-Settes hit the field. Even when you did your thing at Honda last year, everyone was saying how great your sound was, not how great your show was....Alpha basically said the said thing. You all know that you can't compete with a complete halftime show vs a SWAC band. I shole wish the Heritage Bowl was still in effect so JSU could have broke ya'll off like we did Howard, A&T and Hampton. The last time we played FAMU, they did not do a drill AT ALL. The shame of it all. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Just in terms of federal research expenditures, JSU is second in the country in terms of historically black colleges and universities," Okojie said. "We had research expenditures of $47 million last year, second only to Howard University, and most of that was money brought in by the faculty...."*****UPDATE*****"We currently rank No. 1 among research intensive HBCU's in acquiring federal research dollars.".....Ronald Mason, JSU Presidential Newsletter(2004) |
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No, TP what you have is "history" and name recognition. That's no different than saying a person who tells the truth all the time will never lie, and a person who lies will never tell the truth.
My PERCEPTION is that you're not that great now. Throw history and recognition out the window, put em all in the same no-name outfits and then pick a group. If no announcement was made as to "who was who", the wheat would fall from the chaff. We would be making bread and yall would be pig food. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ The true worth of a race must be measured by the character of its womanhood. ~Mary McLeod Bethune |
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All-American |
Well, regardless of what you think, the last time JSU was on the same field with BCC, the crowd preferred JSU. Whether it was due to name recognition or not, that was the general consensus so we can't really go by what you think. The people spoke and BCC was our pig food just like you were TxSO's pig food this year. I don't think it depends on name recognition, you STILL have to come with it. In fact, the BOOM has to come even harder because it's expected for us to give a better show than you. We can't just do only as good as you becasue then people will say we sucked. Only the SWAC haters on this board give MEAC bands props. From city to city, when a SWAC band performs, the crowd generally prefers us. I understand it upsets you all to think that you are good but still have to play second fiddle to tradional powerhouses, but that's life. Deal with it and move on. BCC ain't no Jackson State. I would be willing to put JSU up against BCC in every aspect of the band from field entrance, drill, sound, arrangements, and dance girls. Of course dance routines are hit and miss for EVERY band but the fundamentals of our show are way ahead of BCC. SO if we ain't good, what are you. I seem to recall seeing a show you all did vs A&T and BCC just marched on the field, got in concert formation, and started playing. What kind of mess is that? JSU would never do that. See, what you guys do is try to compare yourselves to bands like Jackson State and see if you are up to par. Then you find ONE aspect that you can beat us in and call yourselves better. I don't think it works like that. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Just in terms of federal research expenditures, JSU is second in the country in terms of historically black colleges and universities," Okojie said. "We had research expenditures of $47 million last year, second only to Howard University, and most of that was money brought in by the faculty...."*****UPDATE*****"We currently rank No. 1 among research intensive HBCU's in acquiring federal research dollars.".....Ronald Mason, JSU Presidential Newsletter(2004) |
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But your argument was that they are simple...not less entertaining. NSU hands down is one of the best drilling HBCUs. I have to give them their props for that. Maybe not something I always want to watch but they are pretty great at what they do and far from simple. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ |
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All-American |
So you dont call just forming straight lines simple? Again, PLEASE show me a clip of NSU doing a good drill. That's all I ask. If the drill is just some lines, how is not simple? And then they drill for 30 steps and stop. Please help me out here....LOL So I guess you agree when you mentioned "less entertaining" that watching NSU drill is like watching grass grow. I am confused on how a complex drill can be boring. If NSU is good at drilling, how so? _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ "Just in terms of federal research expenditures, JSU is second in the country in terms of historically black colleges and universities," Okojie said. "We had research expenditures of $47 million last year, second only to Howard University, and most of that was money brought in by the faculty...."*****UPDATE*****"We currently rank No. 1 among research intensive HBCU's in acquiring federal research dollars.".....Ronald Mason, JSU Presidential Newsletter(2004) |
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When has JSU been known for entertaining drills? Pinwheels, into a doube box, woooow that's hot. Really? The Sonic Boom is not the great band you think it is anymore. Most of your staff left on bad terms. NSU has two of your staff then you have another in the CIAA. Why would someone leave the Great Boom for a CIAA band? TXSU show was entertaining as far as showmanship, but lets be honest, they sounded terrible. I have yet to see JSU do a drill that does not consist of forming a box.
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I actually agreed with all your posts in this thread up to this point. You do make some valid arguments, though. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Howard University |
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