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...but hey, i'm just a spartan, we've only won as many playoff games in FCS as hampton...

...and we just wanna comPETE...

How did Hampton's name get slipped into this? and not even from TP, but from a Spartan
It would have made perfect & common sense to add JSU in place of Hampton since after all they've won as many as NSU, and the thread is about.....well....JSU.
Even though its true that no MEAC school admitted after the 1980s has won a playoff game, aside from that one measure- in FCS im not sure the 2 schools (NSU vs. Hampton OR JSU) should be compared.

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Originally posted by TightEye:

"I think we're just starting to turn the corner," coach Rick Comegy said during his speech. "... No doubt we can go to the I-AA playoffs and compete with the Appalachian States. That's what we want to do."

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I see nothing wrong with what he said...hell you gotta believe, no matter how far fetched it may seem...tell the peole what they want to hear

However, playoffs at Jackson State??? Can a member of the SWAC turn down the SWAC championship game or possibly forfeit it to participate in the playoffs?

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Originally posted by Da Seer:
Jackson State can compete with the Appalachian States of the world. They have the talent, and so do the HBCU's. It's all about belief, intensity, and execution. If you don't see it before you see it, you'll never see it. There is no reason why a school that has sent more pros to the NFL in 1-AA can't win a National Title. There is no reason why a conference that has sent more pros to the NFL can't win a SINGLE playoff game.

We need to stop being scurred and get it done.

I agree w/ you Daseer, I think it is absolutely possible, even though it may be a few years away. However, you've got to beat the Delta States of the world, CONVINCINGLY at that to compete with top midmajor programs and better yet, the App States

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Originally posted by JayRob:

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Originally posted by A&T Brandmasta:
Isnt it borderline blasphemous to mention the playoffs in the SWAC?

Isn't it even MORE blasphemous for a MEAC pawn to dare look down on a conference whose sent TWICE as many players to the NFL and has TWICE the tradition of a faceless conference?! What's the MEAC known for....?! You got it....NOTHING!!!

Apparently, a better forum........That's why you're over here..........I'M JUST CALLING IT AS I SEE IT!!!!

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Originally posted by No Laughing Matter:

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Originally posted by JayRob:

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Originally posted by A&T Brandmasta:
Isnt it borderline blasphemous to mention the playoffs in the SWAC?

Isn't it even MORE blasphemous for a MEAC pawn to dare look down on a conference whose sent TWICE as many players to the NFL and has TWICE the tradition of a faceless conference?! What's the MEAC known for....?! You got it....NOTHING!!!

Apparently, a better forum........That's why you're over here..........I'M JUST CALLING IT AS I SEE IT!!!!

Blah, blah, blah.

The SWAC has sent TWICE as many quality players to the NFL as has the MEAC. I ain't gotta lie.

And JSU has sent the greatest player in HBCU football to the NFL and also has sent more QUALITY players to the NFL than ANY HBCU school. I'll put my NFL list up against ANY HBCU school, including fellow SWAC school, Grambling.

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Originally posted by JayRob:
And JSU has sent the greatest player in HBCU football to the NFL and also has sent more QUALITY players to the NFL than ANY HBCU school. I'll put my NFL list up against ANY HBCU school, including fellow SWAC school, Grambling.

No homie. Gram has yall beat by a long shot.

Gram, SU, Famu, and Tenn St. are the historically the top HBCU's when it comes to football. JSU would come in behind those 4.

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Originally posted by JayRob:

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Originally posted by No Laughing Matter:

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Originally posted by JayRob:

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Originally posted by A&T Brandmasta:
Isnt it borderline blasphemous to mention the playoffs in the SWAC?

Isn't it even MORE blasphemous for a MEAC pawn to dare look down on a conference whose sent TWICE as many players to the NFL and has TWICE the tradition of a faceless conference?! What's the MEAC known for....?! You got it....NOTHING!!!

Apparently, a better forum........That's why you're over here..........I'M JUST CALLING IT AS I SEE IT!!!!

Blah, blah, blah.

The SWAC has sent TWICE as many quality players to the NFL as has the MEAC. I ain't gotta lie.

And JSU has sent the greatest player in HBCU football to the NFL and also has sent more QUALITY players to the NFL than ANY HBCU school. I'll put my NFL list up against ANY HBCU school, including fellow SWAC school, Grambling.

Yeah..who really cares...???

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Originally posted by Art of NSU:

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Originally posted by unknown3:

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Originally posted by MORGAN74:
There is a difference between a coach who has aspirations and one who is full of cheap talk.

If Comegy really wanted a national championship he would have taken the Norfolk State job when he was offered it. He could have used his alleged great coaching talent and taken NSU to a national championship.

Instead he eventually turns up at JSU which is in a conference that does not participate in the playoffs and then runs his mouth about how he can take on Appliachia State.

Talk is cheap.

There was about as good of a chance of that happening at NSU as there is at JSU and JSU doesn't even compete in the playoffs.

Why couldn't he do it in Norfolk? Serious question. I'm trying to figure out what you're getting at.

Still waiting?

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Originally posted by SUjagTILLiDIE:

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Originally posted by JayRob:
And JSU has sent the greatest player in HBCU football to the NFL and also has sent more QUALITY players to the NFL than ANY HBCU school. I'll put my NFL list up against ANY HBCU school, including fellow SWAC school, Grambling.

No homie. Gram has yall beat by a long shot.

Gram, SU, Famu, and Tenn St. are the historically the top HBCU's when it comes to football. JSU would come in behind those 4.

How is that when JSU hasn't had but four losing seasons since 1971? No other HBCU program can claim that feat, not even Grambling.

No HBCU team has the quality crop of players sent to the NFL as JSU has....none. I would put my list against ANY HBCU school. Southern, FAMU and Tenn. State aren't even in the debate.

I challenge ANYONE from Grambling, FAMU, Southern or Tenn. State to put their list up and I'll put mine up of quality NFL players from JSU. We can then let the names speak for themselves.

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Originally posted by punchykky:

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Originally posted by Art of NSU:

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Originally posted by unknown3:

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Originally posted by MORGAN74:
There is a difference between a coach who has aspirations and one who is full of cheap talk.

If Comegy really wanted a national championship he would have taken the Norfolk State job when he was offered it. He could have used his alleged great coaching talent and taken NSU to a national championship.

Instead he eventually turns up at JSU which is in a conference that does not participate in the playoffs and then runs his mouth about how he can take on Appliachia State.

Talk is cheap.

There was about as good of a chance of that happening at NSU as there is at JSU and JSU doesn't even compete in the playoffs.

Why couldn't he do it in Norfolk? Serious question. I'm trying to figure out what you're getting at.

Still waiting?

Dude, come on, the quality of talent at Norfolk State versus Jackson State is not comparable at all. Why even ask that question?

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Originally posted by JayRob:
I'll put my NFL list up against ANY HBCU school, including fellow SWAC school, Grambling.

Your NFL list?

When you put your team against my team, you get tore out the frame!

Lifetime son, lifetime

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Originally posted by JayRob:

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Originally posted by punchykky:

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Originally posted by Art of NSU:

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Originally posted by unknown3:

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Originally posted by MORGAN74:
There is a difference between a coach who has aspirations and one who is full of cheap talk.

If Comegy really wanted a national championship he would have taken the Norfolk State job when he was offered it. He could have used his alleged great coaching talent and taken NSU to a national championship.

Instead he eventually turns up at JSU which is in a conference that does not participate in the playoffs and then runs his mouth about how he can take on Appliachia State.

Talk is cheap.

There was about as good of a chance of that happening at NSU as there is at JSU and JSU doesn't even compete in the playoffs.

Why couldn't he do it in Norfolk? Serious question. I'm trying to figure out what you're getting at.

Still waiting?

Dude, come on, the quality of talent at Norfolk State versus Jackson State is not comparable at all. Why even ask that question?

All it takes is a phone call to do a home and home. But I digress. How would we ever know what Comegy could do in the playoffs when JSU can't come out to play in the playoffs?

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Originally posted by JayRob:

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Originally posted by punchykky:

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Originally posted by Art of NSU:

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Originally posted by unknown3:

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Originally posted by MORGAN74:
There is a difference between a coach who has aspirations and one who is full of cheap talk.

If Comegy really wanted a national championship he would have taken the Norfolk State job when he was offered it. He could have used his alleged great coaching talent and taken NSU to a national championship.

Instead he eventually turns up at JSU which is in a conference that does not participate in the playoffs and then runs his mouth about how he can take on Appliachia State.

Talk is cheap.

There was about as good of a chance of that happening at NSU as there is at JSU and JSU doesn't even compete in the playoffs.

Why couldn't he do it in Norfolk? Serious question. I'm trying to figure out what you're getting at.

Still waiting?

Dude, come on, the quality of talent at Norfolk State versus Jackson State is not comparable at all. Why even ask that question?

there is more talent in the 757 area code than in the WHOLE state of mississippi

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Originally posted by JayRob:
Dude, come on, the quality of talent at Norfolk State versus Jackson State is not comparable at all. Why even ask that question?

Onnidan BCSP TOP 10

1. TUSKEGEE (12-0)
2. DELAWARE STATE (10-2)
3. JACKSON STATE (7-4)
4. NORFOLK STATE (8-3)
5. GRAMBLING STATE (8-4)
6. SOUTH CAROLINA STATE (7-4)
7. ALBANY STATE (8-3)
8. SOUTHERN (8-3)
9. PRAIRIE VIEW A&M (7-3)
10. SHAW (8-4)


Per USA Today, out of 242 schools...
FINAL College Football 2007 through games of 2008 January 7 Monday
HOME ADVANTAGE= 2.58 RATING W L SCHEDL(RANK) VS top 10 | VS top 30 | ELO_CHESS | PREDICTOR
165 Jackson State AA = 48.70 8 4 38.84( 218) 0 0 | 0 0 | 50.81 145 | 46.18 174
174 Norfolk State AA = 46.19 8 3 42.57( 198) 0 0 | 0 0 | 49.45 153 | 42.22 193

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Originally posted by Art of NSU:

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Originally posted by JayRob:
Dude, come on, the quality of talent at Norfolk State versus Jackson State is not comparable at all. Why even ask that question?

Not gonna get into a pissing match with you, but we finished 8-3 in a tougher conference than the SWAC.

Onnidan BCSP TOP 10

1. TUSKEGEE (12-0)
2. DELAWARE STATE (10-2)
3. JACKSON STATE (7-4)
4. NORFOLK STATE (8-3)
5. GRAMBLING STATE (8-4)
6. SOUTH CAROLINA STATE (7-4)
7. ALBANY STATE (8-3)
8. SOUTHERN (8-3)
9. PRAIRIE VIEW A&M (7-3)
10. SHAW (8-4)


Per USA Today, out of 242 schools...
FINAL College Football 2007 through games of 2008 January 7 Monday
HOME ADVANTAGE= 2.58 RATING W L SCHEDL(RANK) VS top 10 | VS top 30 | ELO_CHESS | PREDICTOR
165 Jackson State AA = 48.70 8 4 38.84( 218) 0 0 | 0 0 | 50.81 145 | 46.18 174
174 Norfolk State AA = 46.19 8 3 42.57( 198) 0 0 | 0 0 | 49.45 153 | 42.22 193

Dude, in EVERY major poll, Jackson State ranked higher than Norfolk State.

Final rankings:
http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/polls/full/fcscoachespoll


Jackson State #47
Norfolk State #74
http://www.dunkelindex.com/NCAA_Football_Div1AA_Rankings.asp

NOW you want to change the subject That wasn't the point. The point was you said the quality of talent at Norfolk State versus Jackson State is not comparable at all.

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Originally posted by Art of NSU:
NOW you want to change the subject That wasn't the point. The point was you said the quality of talent at Norfolk State versus Jackson State is not comparable at all.

Actually, I was referring to JSU's overall history in comparison to Norfolk State's overall history.

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Originally posted by PROUDPIRATE:

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...but hey, i'm just a spartan, we've only won as many playoff games in FCS as hampton...

...and we just wanna comPETE...

How did Hampton's name get slipped into this? and not even from TP, but from a Spartan
It would have made perfect & common sense to add JSU in place of Hampton since after all they've won as many as NSU, and the thread is about.....well....JSU.
Even though its true that no MEAC school admitted after the 1980s has won a playoff game, aside from that one measure- in FCS im not sure the 2 schools (NSU vs. Hampton OR JSU) should be compared.

FAMU

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Originally posted by Art of NSU:
NOW you want to change the subject That wasn't the point. The point was you said the quality of talent at Norfolk State versus Jackson State is not comparable at all.

What does the quality/number of athletes in the 757 area code have to do with the quality/number at NSU. PV and Tx. Southern are in Houston, TX (area), but they don't get any of that talent. So, for all the talent that has grown in NSU's backyard, where has it benefited NSU. No objective person would entertain a talent argument between the two schools. Mississippi may be a small state, but check the NFL record books and see where career leaders come from. Brett Favre, Walter Payton (many broken now, I'm sure) and Jerry Rice have assaulted the books. All born and raised in li'l ole Mississippi. It's one thing to have the talent around you. It's a whole nother thing to get the talent on your campus. JSU has proven over a long period of time that it can do that. Be they homegrown or from another state.